automotive orientation

Tom and Ray from cartalk have concocted top ten lists of gay and lesbian cars.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

By the way, did you know these guys are brothers? Or that they both graduated from MIT? I had no idea. If you have some extra time on your hands you should explore their site. There’s time kill central, useful car information, FAQs, their opinion on driving and talking on a cell phone, how to match noises with car problems and lots more.


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  1. Hmm, Levi has #5 and #4. Putting that with Mel’s confession of his attractions, I think we may have a problem here.

    However, it doesn’t surprise me at all that there are several volkswagons on the list. I’ve always maintained that they are good cars that guys shouldn’t be driving.

    Comment by Cameron on June 17, 2003 @ 7:35 pm
  2. Hogwash!

    Comment by Sil on June 17, 2003 @ 7:50 pm
  3. Does anyone know how washing hogs came to signify disbelief?

    Comment by dan on June 17, 2003 @ 9:48 pm
  4. Hey, Levi, are you going to put up with that?

    I’m so proud of myself, I predicted the VW Jetta would be the #1 gay car!

    Comment by Alicia on June 17, 2003 @ 10:15 pm
  5. i have a corolla. a car that would never even make it to the competition. YIPEE! :) :) :) :)

    Comment by arrancia on June 17, 2003 @ 10:18 pm
  6. There you go being controversial again. ;) I love Car Talk, though; those guys are hilarious. They like Miatas, too. Sure, a lot of gay guys like Miatas and Jeep Wranglers (which I own one each of), but I’ll bet middle-aged men are the primary buying demographic for both. Anyway, I like my cars, and the fact that gay men do too doesn’t particularly bother me.

    Oh, and arrancia… you need more exclamation marks!!!!! ;) ;)

    Comment by Levi on June 17, 2003 @ 10:45 pm
  7. Oh, and for Dan’s edification, the origin of the term hogwash:
    “As for hogwash, it is simply wash for the pigs.  Wash in this sense is “swill”, or “liquid or partly liquid food refuse from the kitchen”.  It’s basically a bucketful of kitchen scraps and leftovers, and when given to the pigs that many country families raised once upon a time, it came to be known as hogwash.  Eventually, hogwash came to apply to anything that was worthless, then worthless or bad writings, and now it seems to have taken on the meaning of “untruths”. The word is first recorded with the literal sense in about 1440 (when it was spelled hoggyswasch – what a great word!), and the figurative meaning is first seen in the written record in 1712. ”
    — from Take Our Word For It

    I say we all ought to start calling “hoggyswasch!” when we hear something that’s rubbish.

    Comment by Levi on June 17, 2003 @ 10:56 pm
  8. My last gay roommate (oh yes, I had 3) was too poor to drive those fancy cars. Plus, he was born about 30 years too late with a penchant for antiques and old cars. He drove a baby blue Valiant until it died. Then he drove his father’s old Toyota pickup – which would have worked out well if he was a lesbian.

    Comment by Renee on June 18, 2003 @ 6:29 am
  9. I predict that Levi’s next vehicle will be-e-e-e, a VW Beetle. Rainbow colored, of course.

    Comment by jason on June 18, 2003 @ 7:45 am
  10. I can’t see Levi driving a Beetle. I can see him driving the #3 car, the BMW 3-series in white, red or champagne.

    Comment by Mel on June 18, 2003 @ 8:29 am
  11. Yeah, I could probably handle driving a BMW 3-series. Definitely not a rainbow-colored Beetle, though! Nuh-uh, none of that for me, thanks. And seriously, how many straight guys wouldn’t want to drive a BMW?

    Comment by Levi on June 18, 2003 @ 9:01 am
  12. I wouldn’t mind a BMW 3-series, but I would prefer a blue one. I would rather have a 5 or 7-series, but the 3 would be fun.

    A good friend of mine from high school who came out in college had a 1980-something 5.0 litre Ford Mustang.

    Comment by dan on June 18, 2003 @ 9:22 am
  13. Levi, way to be secure in your sexuality. I personally love the #1 lesbian car (subaru outback), but am definately straight. Maybe if I could find a pink one, or add some sort of floral motif to the bra, it would be okay for me to own one without my preferences being called into question…

    Comment by Anonymous on June 18, 2003 @ 9:31 am
  14. That last comment was mine. This is an off day for me. Dan, this is a really funny site. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
    Now maybe I can figure out why my car sounds like this on the freeway:
    vroom, click, boom, silence.

    Comment by Carlene on June 18, 2003 @ 9:32 am
  15. I love the calls that Click and Clack get on the show when the person describes the problem sound, “vroom, click, boom, silence..” What’s amazing is when they know exactly what it is and diagnose it properly. They sometimes have call backs from people who say that the diagnoses was right on.

    Comment by jason on June 19, 2003 @ 10:25 am
  16. now i finally have complete and convincing hard evidence that i’m not a lesbian (i only had my gut to go with before) – not only do i have a car that would never make it to this competition – i am also terribly bored with all this chatter about cars. “i’d take the 3 series, but i like the 5 or 7 series with the 5.0 liter of something and the something something with wheels and a gas tank.” WHA?

    Comment by arrancia on June 19, 2003 @ 10:39 am
  17. You say that now but if you ever get the chance to drive a sports car, take it. You might enjoy it.

    But even if you did like cars, it wouldn’t make you a lesbian. Just like wearing bracelets doesn’t make a guy gay.

    Comment by dan on June 19, 2003 @ 11:10 am
  18. Wait. I thought it did.

    Comment by Cameron on June 19, 2003 @ 11:59 am
  19. Jason’s not going to be happy about that.

    Comment by dan on June 19, 2003 @ 12:04 pm
  20. dan… do you wear bracelets?

    do you have something to tell us? hmmmm? (shoinwg my gentle, welcoming face)

    Comment by arrancia on June 19, 2003 @ 8:16 pm
  21. Nope, I don’t wear bracelets. But a certain person whose name starts with Jay and ends with son does. When Mel saw it, she said it was feminine, or gay. We then mocked Jason for the rest of the evening about his bracelet even though the rest of us thought it was fine for a guy to wear one.

    Comment by dan on June 19, 2003 @ 11:08 pm

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