## double your money every 60 minutes

I need to preface what I’m going to talk about with two things. First, when I was young, I received a number of letters from different companies saying I was almost a winner in their sweepstakes, or even better, that I had already won something. Without fail, I dutifully filled out the forms, pasted the stickers where they were supposed to be pasted and mailed every one of them in, anxiously awaiting my prize money.

I got nothin’.

Now the second item.

Have you heard of the math problem teachers often use to help students learn about exponents? Here it is.

Which would result in more money? One million dollars or starting with one cent and having the amount from the previous day doubled each day for thirty days? (Two cents the second day, four cents the third day, etc) (via Math forum)

The answer is a cent a day doubled each day because you would end up with over 10 million dollars. (Note: If the length of time were changed to 26 days, you’d be much better off taking the million dollars, because the cent-a-day-doubled plan would give you \$671,087. There’s a whole lot of growth at the end).

Now that you know about those two things, here’s what I want to talk about.

The folks at dblcash.com claim that if you give them a dollar, they’ll give you back \$2 in 60 minutes. No matter what the amount, they say you’ll get a 200% increase within an hour. A question in their FAQ (#4) asks, “…My calculations show that reinvesting my profit 12 times may turn my 50 bucks into half of (sic) million. Where is my mistake?”

Their answer? “Your calculations are [correct]. From now on, you can earn as much as you want.”

Now, I don’t know about you, but my first thought was, “Great balls of fire! If I start with one dollar today, in 5 days I could be the richest man in the world!”

A second later, I thought, “Wait a minute. If they can make so much money so easily, why would they have a crappy web site asking for my money?”

But the greedy voice returned. “Maybe they’re stupid! Maybe you really can double your money. Just try it!”

Again, the voice of reason chimed in. “If you were to invest a single dollar in this scheme and do it for a 40-hour week, you would eclipse Bill Gates and become the richest person in the world on hour 4 of day 5. Does that sound realistic to you?” (last I heard Bill Gates was worth a paltry 46 billion dollars).

My greed continued, “But you’d be a trillionaire at the end of day 5! Just try it to see if it works.”

The voice of reason finally submitted the clincher (and if everyone remembered this sage piece of advice, it would put the Nigerian Scammers out of business).

“If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.”

In case you still want to try it, here’s a projection of your earnings after five 8-hour days starting with one dollar.

Day 1
hour 1 : \$2
hour 2 : \$4
hour 3 : \$8
hour 4 : \$16
hour 5 : \$32
hour 6 : \$64
hour 7 : \$128
hour 8 : \$256

Day 2
hour 1 : \$512
hour 2 : \$1,024
hour 3 : \$2,048
hour 4 : \$4,096
hour 5 : \$8,192
hour 6 : \$16,384
hour 7 : \$32,768
hour 8 : \$65,536

Day 3
hour 1 : \$131,072
hour 2 : \$262,144
hour 3 : \$524,288
hour 4 : \$1,048,576
hour 5 : \$2,097,152
hour 6 : \$4,194,304
hour 7 : \$8,388,608
hour 8 : \$16,777,216

Day 4
hour 1 : \$33,554,432
hour 2 : \$67,108,864
hour 3 : \$134,217,728
hour 4 : \$268,435,456
hour 5 : \$536,870,912
hour 6 : \$1,073,741,824
hour 7 : \$2,147,483,648
hour 8 : \$4,294,967,296

Day 5
hour 1 : \$8,589,934,592
hour 2 : \$17,179,869,184
hour 3 : \$34,359,738,368
hour 4 : \$68,719,476,736
hour 5 : \$137,438,953,472
hour 6 : \$274,877,906,944
hour 7 : \$549,755,813,888
hour 8 : \$1,099,511,627,776

This is of course a scam, but I wasn’t able to find anyone talking about being duped by them, nor could I find anything negative about e-gold.com. The main thing that turned up was a phishing scam designed to trick valid e-gold users. In other words, I know this is a scam, I just don’t know how it works. They may just take your money and run, or they may lead you along by giving you the 200% increase at first to make you believe it’s real, and then keeping larger amounts. Who knows, but if anyone is willing to try it, I’d be curious to hear how it goes.

If you’re looking to make extra money there are ways out there, but it’s hit or miss. It’s ideal if there is a generous return policy so if they don’t work, you can get a full refund. I learned that from experience after signing up for the Ultimate Wealth Package and discovering the entire program was to get other people to sign up for the same program. I didn’t know you could get a refund until well after the stated return period, but Clickbank still gave me one, no questions asked.

1. Hey, great article but I have been looking for info on this new program ever since I found it… then I found you. Well, the greed gave in for me and I invested \$5 of e-gold. Guess what? 48 minutes later I got \$10! I did it again with \$50, then I got \$100… etc, etc. All in all, in one days time, I made \$135 but then I stopped for a while to try and figure out how this is even possible. I e-mailed dblcash and asked them various questions and I got sensible answers back as to what it is about and how it is possible. It all has to do with investing. I have been in investment programs for a while now and I have never seen anything like this, plus their website is crappy and they do not disclose any information on who they are. Not to mention that their domain on whois has no information either. So, I e-mailed e-gold to see how this type of investment could even be possible. They e-mailed me within 1 day and told me that the activity that dblcash is doing cannot be possible and that they strongly advise me not to spend money to him. If you check the dblcash site often, their e-gold account number changes because curious people like me contact e-gold and tell them about dblcash and then e-gold closes their account. They simply open a new one. Well, I e-mailed them back and forth a few times to tell them that I have indeed gotten paid within the hour each time via paypal and the money was doubled. They stated that Paypal will end up reversing the funds because they are fraudulent. I asked them to give more detail but they stated that they could not without a court subpoena. Lol. So, I’m sitting here with an extra \$135 in my PayPal account, afraid to spend it because I don’t want them taking it back and then it cutting into my personal funds. And, I am also eager to invest money into dblcash again!… But that is my story. Yes, dblcash does pay… are they a scam? I don’t know but I will keep you informed.

Comment by Chad on January 29, 2005 @ 11:26 pm
2. Hello,

I have also found the site Double… and it’s so good to be true… I have tried to invest 1.17\$, and after an hour, I have really received 2.34\$ into my paypal..In 1 HOUR! It’s so freaks!!!! I don’t have anymore money in my Egold, if not I will invest like 5\$ and another 5\$.. I won’t invest a lot, cuz they can run away..How could we know?

If you have any questions, you can contact me via messenger using my email…

Try it, just invest like 1-5\$ (that’s nothing) and you will get the double in ONE hour. I’m not kidding. I’m not a part of that organisation, so don’t worry.. I’m not doing ad for them, I’m like everybody here, someone that want to invest to make money, but don’t risk that much to make money, so just try with a little money, you will get back your money…

But don’t forget, if you receive like 5\$ of profit back, reinvest another amount, but don’t invest too much like 100\$ or more… Cuz they can run away… I don’t know… I just invest a little money….

Comment by Bobby Lee on January 30, 2005 @ 9:17 pm
3. It truly is bizarre. Has anybody else dealt with dblcash?

Comment by Chad on January 30, 2005 @ 9:29 pm
4. Don’t invest into this site, they are not legal and have been around for awhile. They used to be http://www.the-money-page.com and http://www.the-money-page.us. They get shut down a lot and then restart a new site. Your funds will be reversed from your paypal account and paypal might suspend or shut down your account for fraudulent activity. I was lucky enough to try their site when their e-gold account was suspended and so I didn’t lose any money. Here’s a review of their old site from someone who wasn’t as fortunate as I was. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff80485.htm

Comment by Caleb on January 30, 2005 @ 9:31 pm
On what date did you makethe first transaction?

Comment by Brad on January 30, 2005 @ 9:35 pm
6. Wow. Thank you so much everyone. I am glad that you posted that link at ripoffreport.com. Well, the first date I used dblcash was on the 24th (last Mon.) and the last date was on the 25th. So it has been a whole week since my first return and I haven’t heard from PayPal or nor have any funds been reversed. All the money is still there. I hope my PayPal account does not get suspended because I use PayPal like a second bank account. So, what my plan of action is… to change my main e-mail addy on the account and remove that entirely. Maybe that way when he tries to get a reversal, he won’t be able to because the e-mail is not registered. I don’t know if that will work but it is the only chance I have. I really don’t want to contact PayPal because I don’t want to be, “the source to the problem” and have my account suspended. So, hopefully this will work and I will continue to keep you updated.

Comment by Chad on January 30, 2005 @ 10:28 pm
7. Hello!

Thanks Dan! for your link, but about the reverse money, you said that you have receive money from more than one email of paypal sender, but here, in my situation, I receive the money from one Sender, and I have made my second payment, and I still receive the amount of the same sender.

Comment by Bobby Lee on January 30, 2005 @ 10:40 pm
8. All of my payments were also from the same sender… however, he could have just hi-jacked an account that had a lot of money.

Unlike Bobby, I wouldn’t recommend investing into this program because it is apparently a scam. Even if the money never gets reversed, it is still a scam. The math shows the proof. And, if I knew who’s money it really was (if it was indeed stolen), I would return it all.

Comment by Chad on January 30, 2005 @ 10:44 pm
9. WoW! I really don’t know anything about that… I didn’t know about stolen money… I think I will stop using them now…

Comment by Bobby Lee on January 30, 2005 @ 10:47 pm
10. Bobby, I do have messenger… but I’m working on a website for a client right now so I don’t have the time to have a constant talk but I will keep this site open to respond to comments.

Comment by Chad on January 30, 2005 @ 10:50 pm
11. OK! I don’t really understand about REVERSE money… If the money was send from the same sender and Paypal is secure transaction, how could they stole money???

I have receive a total of around 10\$ from them… What happen now? What do I have to do?

Comment by Bobby Lee on January 30, 2005 @ 10:51 pm
12. I would just hang on to it and not spend it… possibly change your primary account e-mail address. According to PayPal, reversals can be done up to 60 days after the transaction.

Comment by Chad on January 30, 2005 @ 11:03 pm
13. Check their Whois: http://www.whois.sc/dblcash.com

Why I have to changes my primary account email address?

Talk back to you tommorow… After 8 hours…

Comment by Bobby Lee on January 30, 2005 @ 11:03 pm
14. Wow! I’m so glad I found your posts. I was so tempted by this scam, but luckily I did not try it. I guess you should always follow the rule….if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is! Thanks! Jill

Comment by jill on January 31, 2005 @ 4:02 am
15. Well… I think people do not INVEST in that organisation… Cuz after checking my Send Money page, I saw that two emails appears in my Sender’s list.. On the receipt, we saw the same sender’s email, but on the Sender’s list, there’s a new email and the sender’s email, that’s mean 2 differents emails… THEY ARE SCAM!!!

Sorry, I’m talking about Paypal here!

Comment by Bobby Lee on January 31, 2005 @ 4:51 am
16. Chad stated he stated that he emailed DblCash about gotten paid within the hour each time via paypal and the money was doubled and said that DblCash stated that Paypal will end up reversing the funds because they are fraudulent. Well, I email DblCash about if the funds we are getting are fraudulent and they said that the funds we are getting are not fraudulent. So why would they tell you that the funds are fradulent and they tell me that the funds are not fraudulent?

Comment by Nicholas on January 31, 2005 @ 9:00 am
17. No, I stated that e-gold said that PayPal would reverse the funds because they are fraudulent. Sorry if I confused you.

Comment by Chad on January 31, 2005 @ 10:09 am
18. Please be careful about investing into DblCash because I got an email for Paypal. It says:

Dear Nicholas Bunch,

Recently, PayPal received a notification from a user regarding unauthorized access to his PayPal account. As a result, one of the payments credited to your PayPal account has been placed in a temporary hold while we investigae the claim. The details of this transaction are as follows:

Transaction Date: Jan. 28, 2005
Transaction Amount: \$0.46 USD

Comment by Nicholas on February 1, 2005 @ 12:48 pm
19. Thank goodness I stumbled across this site! I almost went through with this disgusting scam. I know this sounds redundant but “IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS”. I think the first time we hear those words it is from our parents mouths. These people are the scum of the earth and they get off on victimising people that are in need of money to survive. Not only that these scum are stealing from people on Paypal. Makes you wonder how they even get into peoples Paypal accounts if indeed that is what is happening. Paypal is supposedly a secure system. However saying that, hackers can get into anything they want to. Paypal doesn’t seem to be doing much if they are shutting down Paypal accounts of the people that are being victimised by dblcash. They really should be focusing on trying to find out how these scum azz losers are stealing peoples Paypal accounts and then shut them down! Unless Paypal has something to hide…hmmm, really makes you wonder.

Comment by Josie on February 1, 2005 @ 4:29 pm
20. Well I got suckered into this scam and spent a lot more money than the rest of you. I thought it was too good to be true, but people make millions on the internet, so I figured this was my lucky break. dblcash doubled my money everytime and took me for roughly \$2,200.00 US dollars. I kept my returns in my Paypal account, which was quickly frozen. I now show a negative balance in my Paypal account, which I still don’t quite understand. I thought Paypal was scamming me (and maybe they still are), but I’ve come to the conclusion that dblcash is the big scammer. I spoke with Paypal twice about this matter and they have been absolutely no help. They told me I should get an attorney and they’re investigating the people who sent me money. They don’t understand, I was scammed too!

Comment by Jason on February 2, 2005 @ 6:18 am
21. Welp, the funds were reversed. I am now out \$135. I am also happy that I found this site before I took it further. I e-mailed PayPal several times and like Jason said, they were totally no help.

Comment by Chad on February 2, 2005 @ 10:55 am
22. I’m Jason from post #22. I wanted to let everyone know that it’s a good idea to file a complaint at http://www.ic3.gov

We need to help the authorities catch these criminals and the more complaints the better the chances.

Thanks guys. I hope we all learned a leeson.

Comment by Jason on February 3, 2005 @ 6:59 am
23. Very interesting posts! Does anyone know about another “system” called “private-income”. They ask you for \$5 that goes to your 1st up line person the ask for another \$32 that is spread to others upline. Then they ask you to go thru alot of stuff to “publish” your own site and join the levels of payouts? Anyone have info on this program?

Comment by Ron on February 3, 2005 @ 5:23 pm
24. Phew, thanks Chad. I was really about to try this until I learned that they reversed your money.

Comment by Ryan on February 6, 2005 @ 2:22 pm
25. well, I invested \$375 today and didn’t get anything back. I did receive the smaller amounts back. I was never frozen with paypa or reversed.

Comment by dan on February 8, 2005 @ 7:34 pm
26. maybe going to the media would be a good idea as well. the more people that know about this scam the better.

Comment by Josie on February 9, 2005 @ 3:45 am
27. I contacted e-gold ant they shut down accounts as fast as they can find them. Anyone know about real trade http://www.anzwers.org/trade/realinvest/

I wonder if this guy runs this too. All I can say anything that deals with you giving e-gold to someone else first can be lost. You can’t get the e-gold back. I sent some harsh e-mails to this waste of blood who runs dblcash.com

Comment by dan on February 9, 2005 @ 6:46 pm
28. update: He refunded my money this morning and doubled it. It took several e-mail and a complaint to the above link one of you recommended.

Comment by dan on February 10, 2005 @ 8:09 am
29. This is definately a scam. The idea of investing e-gold investing is not uncommon, but what they are doing is HIGHLY uncommon and impossible (coming from an e-gold investor). What happens you send them money via E-gold. Since E-gold can’t be reversed, by you sending them e-gold they are getting free money. They, in turn, send you “payment” via Paypal. However, what you don’t know is that the accounts that they send you money from are either hijacked or are created on the fly and are funded with Stolen Credit cards. When they send you the payments, they are in turn using stolen money from either hijacked paypal accounts or stole credit cards. To you, you see it as profit and continue converting funds into E-gold and sending them money. Eventually, someone is going to notice their money missing and start a charge-back (either on your account or someone elses). Paypal will then reverse ALL money paid with that account/card. Thus, if you were paid with it, your money will be frozen until they eventually reverse it.

Paypal IS NOT the best place to receive money since Paypal has the right to reverse anything for any reason (you agree to this in their policy). Thus, if anyone sends you money, they can potentially reverse it and you would end up with nothing. Since you are not physically sending them any good, you are not covered by Paypal protection. Thus, if your account does end up negative, you are responsible for it, not Paypal.

Dblcash.com has operated this ring for a long time. The last site they used (before this one) was Double-hourly.com. Same site, same webpage, same everything.

There are other (legit) ways of investing e-gold. Anyone offering to pay you 200% (100% plus principle) in one hour is doing nothing more than scamming you.

If you would like to learn ways of making money using e-gold, let me know.

Comment by Reginald on February 10, 2005 @ 11:25 am
30. How do you know they are stealing from others credit cards to pay? Paypal never says why they freeze the accounts. dan. also, yes what are good ways tomake money with e-gold?

Comment by dan on February 10, 2005 @ 7:38 pm
31. I got money from the same guy three times. He is unverifed. no compliants. Anyone can write a rip off report. I didn’t read that any of you heard from anyone saying that you had stolen their money???

I also e-mailed the guy who sent the money and I never received a return response.

the only one saying anything is paypal. Who would want to do business with a company that cannot protect their customers money? credit cards do, banks do, why can’t paypal? Why do they put the burden on the victim? Why not protect the person who allgedly is having their money taken from them? Or the person who receives the money without knowing? This person a dblcash hasn’t been stopped by paypal. If he is stealing why is he moving through other peoples account taking money as he wills? They freeze your account but he goes on and on? doesn’t that disturb anyone?

Comment by dan on February 11, 2005 @ 8:30 am
32. paypal is the middle man. What they lose is a write off. If they fail to protect the security of their customers credit cards and bank accounts it becomes the cost of doing business as a middle man. The people entering into a trade for what they believe is a real business opportunity are being punished for ignorance. I have cut ties with dblcash.com becuase the person running it is flaky. He didn’t deliver in an hour as promised. I don’t like giving e-gold to anyone because they can keep it and e-gold won’t do anything about it (paypal and e-gold should team up and form a mafia) and I don’t like dealing with a nameless person (support team. What the hell is that?) it is suspect at the very least. I do believe paypal and e-gold are responsible for the loss, not you, not me. Don’t deal in e-gold, deal in credit cards or other protected currencies. As far as Paypal; Let them freeze away. I don’t trust them with my money. their no pal palee.

Comment by dan on February 12, 2005 @ 11:11 am
33. hey yall, i’m glad that this site is here, i was looking at trying this and now i will move on to something else,it does sound to good to be true and i didnt know that paypal could reverse the funds, thanks again for the info…

Comment by donnie grantham on February 14, 2005 @ 7:29 am
34. Wow!! I want to thank everyone for posting your reviews b/c I too was about to send them idiots my money. I’m just like most of you out there who works everyday to make a living and wants to just on the first chance that sounds like a break to make some money. I didn’t go through with sending them money I’m just glad that I’m fortune enough to read this first. Sorry to those of you who weren’t. Thanks again. Anyone who knows any LEGAL and LEGITIMATE ways to make some money via e-gold, I’d greatly appreciate your help, email address dpbusiness18@yahoo.com

Comment by Dan on February 14, 2005 @ 1:10 pm
35. when my account was frozen paypal sent mixed messages. First they said that the person who sent the money was trying to do a funds reversal dispute. Then they said they are looking into the funds that were sent to me as to whether or not they were legit. Which is it? Did the person who sent the money file a dispute or were the funds no good? Very fishing on paypals part

Comment by dan on February 17, 2005 @ 7:37 pm
36. I had the same answers from Paypal as well. Paypal doesn’t want to admit they have a problem with others hacking their system because they might have to take the loss themselves. I actually spoke to one person who sent money to my account via dblcash.com. I checked my email one morning and this person wrote me stating they had a charge on their credit card, which paid me \$100.00 (double my \$50.00 w/ dblcash.com). They wanted to know why this happened and I explained what I was involved in and what might be happening (that others are hacking into Paypal accounts to pay their investors). I quickly refunded this persons money and we both feel Paypal is not a safe place to do business. I think Paypal doesn’t want to admit they have a serious problem with their system. Maybe it’s an inside job??

Comment by Jason on February 22, 2005 @ 8:53 am
37. Hi guys,
Thanks for the information above(about investment programs). I was just going to invest in one of those programs. Just would like to say that Look at this website and tell me that .is this website is legal? Should I trust this man and invest money(about \$5) because it looks legal to me. He also has given his e-mail address.Because don’t wanna lose my paypal account.
The url is http://www.johnsonhyip.com

Hope you guys will respond soon.

Comment by Arvin on February 23, 2005 @ 2:42 pm
38. Arvin,

I’m pretty sure http://www.johnsonhyip.com is a legit company. They pay directly to your egold account, which is the safest online currency available and there is no risk of a charge-back. Check out http://www.ministryofgold.com and it lists that website in the top hyip companies. Never invest what you can’t afford to lose. I suggest http://www.prime-fund.com because they’ve been around a long time, but you still never know? They could fold at any time and run with your money. Just be cautious and if it sounds too good to be true, most likely it is. Scammer websites are usually cheaply made (set-up very quick) so stay away from those all together. Hope this helps.

Comment by Jason on February 24, 2005 @ 7:13 am
39. STAY AWAY FROM http://WWW.DBLCASH.COM THEY SCAMMED ME. YEA THEY DOUBLE YOUR MONEY IN ONE HOUR BUT GUESS WHAT, PAYPAL SEND ME AN EMAIL TWO DAYS LATER WHEN I TRIED TO WIRE THE MONEY TO MY BANK ACCOUNT AND REVERSE THETRANSACTIONS SAYING THE MONEY WAS UNAUTHORIZE. THIS SCAMMER GETS HIS MONEY BACK AND YOURS. SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR MONEY IF YOU INVEST WITH THESE CON ARTIST LOW LIVES.

Comment by Rana on March 11, 2005 @ 11:29 pm
40. Yup, they got me too. It was one of the few programs that seemed to work within the time frame advertised, and the amount advertised. I lost over \$1000 before rumblings from paypal came through. Do I now have any course of action (legal) to get my money back, or am I up a creek?

Comment by Brian Orr on March 15, 2005 @ 9:14 am
41. well i would like to chime in on dbl cash… i was almost ready to give them a higher amount to start with until i read your article. they also stated that within 48 hours they would pre pay your egold acct and then you send them the money. well i emailed them the info to do a test spend and they never got back to me.
i was almost duped.. all i want to do is find another way to pay off my bills without adding another loan. Im okay financially, but would love to be able to invest and get a profit…
deidre

Comment by deidre on March 26, 2005 @ 8:58 am
42. Let tell you people one thing that money is not stolen it them acting to be the victim and they just call paypal and told paypal that thre money had been stolen it how hackers make a clean getway(so that way no one thinks its them.these guys are good but not that good, think about every time they payed you they used the same paypal account and then every time the payment was stop(I think If I was getting ripped off all the the time I think I would close my paypal accout and open a new one) if was real stolen money most people wounld not know into the end of the mouth, not in 48 hours. by the way I hope not of you open any of this so called victim’s email that a good way to get worms. and I know what some of you are thinking I have Antivirus I cant get any worms, if the wrom was created by them and only used by them then no anitvirus in the world will find it. I know what I am talking I was a hacker just like these guys only I was a lot better before I went to jail for hacking. these guys have too many mistakes they are very lucky that they are not behind bars.

Comment by Mike on March 28, 2005 @ 6:00 am
43. I have actually figured out what they are doing and how they can continue to get away with it. For security purposes, I will not post it here, but feel free to email me and I will tell you.

Comment by Anonymous on March 31, 2005 @ 9:08 am
44. They have appeared again! They are now at http://www.150percent.com . Let’s run these scammers out.

Comment by Brian on April 11, 2005 @ 12:56 pm
45. I recently came across the 150Percent website, please e-mail me and let me know what exactly these people are doin and how they are getting away with it.

Comment by Kyia on April 14, 2005 @ 11:09 pm
46. Well, http://www.150percent.com is offering to give your return upfront through PayPal, so I was wondering, even if it is a scam, if you quickly tranferred all of the PayPal to e-gold, could you actually keep the money?

Comment by Brendan on April 17, 2005 @ 8:54 pm
47. Actually, they are not using fraudulent funds. Rather, they are running a very elaborate and very sneaky scam. The problem is that Paypal isn’t going to do anything about it because they can’t. If anyone wants to know how it’s being done, email me at lawlcom@safe-mail.net. I do not want to post how it’s done to prevent others from doing it.

Comment by Anonymous on April 17, 2005 @ 10:53 pm
48. If you want 200% return, check out http://www.liagold.com/ . They paid me on time 200%. You may have to wait a bit longer (12 days) but it is better than having your money scammed from you.

Comment by Brian on April 18, 2005 @ 11:55 am
49. I did my homework on http://www.150percent.com, and well, seems the site was created a little less than two weeks ago. Here’s what I found out:
Domain Name: 150PERCENT.COM
Created on: 06-Apr-05
Expires on: 06-Apr-06

Comment by Brendan on April 18, 2005 @ 3:49 pm
50. One thing to note Brendan is that this scam has been operating for over a year now. This is the 4th domain name that they have used.

Comment by Anonymous on April 18, 2005 @ 9:36 pm
51. One thing about HYIP’s that most people do not know is that about 99% of them are scams (or will end up scamming you in the long run). The liagold site appears to be a typical HYIP site:

Group of Forex investors, yada yada yada… Investments are the only way to go, blah blah blah…

Just from the grammer, domain whois, and the rating sites of choice, the site reminds me of the Almagold/StableInvest scam sites. Similar program and similar returns. If it is them, it will stop paying in a month or two.

Comment by Anonymous on April 18, 2005 @ 9:48 pm
52. Thanks for the info, I’ll be a little more careful.

Comment by Brian on April 20, 2005 @ 1:38 pm
53. Well, I invested and got my money. But now that I realize that paypal will take the money I’m going to stop. As a security measure I’m going to change my email address and pray for the best. Thanks for the infor. Wish I would found you guys before I started.

On another note, I invested in double-bank.com and they ripped me off. They were supposed to send me payment directly to my egold account and I never received anything.

If anybody knows of some legitimate investement sites let me know.

Comment by Erica on April 27, 2005 @ 10:36 pm
54. does anyone of you know about http://www.syncinvest.com???

i set up an account but didnt send any money yet after reading all this!! can anyone check please.. they promise 2% a day but that sounds too good to be true as well!!

and the also run through e-gold.. so what do you think?

Comment by alex on April 28, 2005 @ 2:18 pm
55. One thing to note is that while 99% of all HYIP’s are scam, 1% are in fact legit. With regards to Syncinvest, they are one of the longest running HYIP’s on the net (about 3 years now). I use them now and they are pretty decent. I would, however, recommend that if you do want to make money decent money with them, deposit at least \$500 into their system. Then, use their compounding option to increase your principle. I started with a \$1,000 deposit and let it grow for about 3 months on 100% compounding. Then, I removed the compounding and now I make a decent amount per day off the interest.

Comment by Anonymous on April 28, 2005 @ 9:47 pm
56. actually, they’ve only been running for 152 days, i dont know what you’re talking about man.. if you are going to post your opinion, at least post something that is true…

Comment by alex on April 29, 2005 @ 1:02 pm
57. Actually, we are both wrong on the times. Be sure, Alex, before you post that you too make sure that you are correct. Syncinvest has been online since December 3, 2003. Thus, about a year and 4 months.

Comment by Anonymous on April 29, 2005 @ 3:33 pm
58. Er.. actually December 16, 2003. Wrong keys.

Comment by Anonymous on April 29, 2005 @ 3:34 pm
59. like i said… only about 150 days!!!! DONT LOOK At the date the site tells you! look at the time the site started to run lol!! if you do a simple research, you will find out that syncinvest bought the domain name in decembre 2003 but only activated the site about a year later!! just to make you think that they have been here for long!! but really its only been 150 days.. just a reminder that it is a scam that is going to collapse soon enough…

Comment by alex on May 1, 2005 @ 2:16 pm
60. The time that you are referring too is the time in which they started using Monitoring, not the time that started out. A lot of sites that get into the HYIP thing do not actually use monitoring agents until afterwards. One thing you have to understand Alex is that I have been involved in the HYIP arena for about 5 years now. I’m not in any way new to this stuff. This isn’t just things that I make up here. But, nonetheless, there is no need to argue about Syncinvest as they are not the topic of this post. Rather, 150Percent/Double-hourly is.

Comment by Anonymous on May 2, 2005 @ 8:35 pm
61. Just a note, if you go to their rating page (http://www.syncinvest.com/rate.php) and look at some of the rating services they use, they tell you how long the service has been running with respect to how long the site has been monitored.

Comment by Anonymous on May 2, 2005 @ 8:38 pm
62. To Brian
I noticed you recommended http://www.liagold.com I spent a \$300.00 on the 18 day period invest april 10, 2005 never recieved a dime plus their sit can’t be found.
I would like to know your experience?

Comment by qahhaar on May 6, 2005 @ 11:13 pm
63. I invested in lia-gold when they first started out. I did receive 200% as promised, and decided to consider that a profit and move on. I realize now that it is most likely a ponzi, and apologize for the recommendation.

Comment by Brian on May 10, 2005 @ 9:44 am
64. Dear Mr Anonymous
I cant help but think that you are a fake and that you are runing this scams or know the people who are runing this scams becuase I cant see why it is that you want to be anonymous if you are on our side and trying to let people know about this scams then why is it that you call your self anonymous because if I can tell you who I am even if it is Illagel for me to even thouch a PC then I think that anyone can tell us who they are(after I got out of jail for hacking, I can not thouch a PC for three year if I do and someone finds out I go back to jail)so if I can tell people who I am then so can anyone who post anything on this web site

PS to my last comment If I where you guys I would not lisen to anymore the MR Anonymous has to say it is clean to me that he is somehow working with these scams

Dear Brendan,
Nice work on finding out when 150% was started
I would say to Post it but I dont want Mr Anonymous to find out what you know about his scam

Comment by Mike on May 10, 2005 @ 9:57 am
65. With regards to your comment Mike, actually, I’m NOT anonymous. I just go by the name, Anonymous. IE, I don’t use the name to remain anonymous, rather I just use the name.

Further, I have no dealings with any of the scams you talk about. If I were working with the scams, I would definately not post here saying that you SHOULDN’T use them. Doesn’t make any since. Further, if you read up a bit, you will see that I list my email address where you can contact me directly and I can explain to you how most of the scams out there work. The reason I know the stuff is because I was a victim of most of them. I was screwed over by double-hourly before it was called Double-hourly.

As for why I use the term Anonymous versus my name, I actually posted here under my own name. In fact, if you read up a bit, you’ll see posts from a person name “Reginald.” However, I felt that Anonymous was cooler. If you don’t believe me, you can always ask Dan as he has emailed me and has my name (as it is listed when I reply).

Comment by Anonymous on May 15, 2005 @ 9:51 pm
66. are you for reall

Comment by amy watson on May 29, 2005 @ 2:40 pm
67. Amy — can you spel?

Comment by DavidH on May 30, 2005 @ 11:32 am
68. Well, apparently they are at it again at http://www.30min.net. Don’t fall for it people!

Comment by Sherri on June 3, 2005 @ 10:54 am
69. Ok, well I’ll admit I was too lazy to read all these posts. But, I am a pretty experienced with computers, paypal and fraud in general. My two cents is worth something here. I was brought to this site because I too wanted to see if many people invested in this. I was shocked that more than 1 person did. Anyhow, I wanted to know how it worked, so I investigated. Well basically, what thesee nigerians do is they phish paypal accounts. OK, so why don’t they just steal the money from the paypal accounts? Well, paypal will do a chargeback to them before they can withdraw the funds. So, instead they steal paypal accounts, then pay you your 150% (notice they can pay upfront without risking anything) and so when you send them the e-gold, before paypal and e-gold can even talk about the issue, they have withdrawn your investment. Meanwhile, their paypal payment is deducted as fraud from the investor’s account and given back to the person who’s account got stolen. So in the end, the investor is basically just the tool that allows the nigerians to withdraw some of the stolen money that they get from phishing paypal accounts. It is a fairly clever scheme, and even more clever because they appear to pay you, and you can continue to invest money… :) well anyhow, I hope this helps you guys understand how these filthy people work. Have a nice day.

Regards,
Matt Clark

P.S. Oh yeah, and looking up above. Another fellow made the point that they do have awful grammar. They are better than most however, but still before investing in something so suspicious, I would at least make sure that they know english. I’m not here to give you logic on this though, a 5 year-old could give y’all 100 reasons why you should not give these people money. I hope I was able to explain to you how it worked, because that is what intrigued me the most here, and by the way it is a clever scam. It is a shame that these Africans don’t INVEST this knowledge into something productive.

Comment by Matt Clark on June 4, 2005 @ 8:10 am
70. Hey Matt, thanks for the info, although that isn’t how their scheme is working (although it is sort of close). There isn’t any phishing going on. Rather, they are actually in control of the accounts that send the money. Send me an email to lawlcom@safe-mail.net and I’ll explain their entire scheme (researched it over a year).

Comment by Reg on June 4, 2005 @ 2:33 pm
71. First of all, thanks to all those that posted giving the rest of us the knowledge necessary to avoid sinking our hard earned money into such worthless schemes.

Next, it is clear by the # of posts here how many of us want essentially the same thing. That is… a way to make money both quickly & legitimately!!! Why do we depend on others to come up with the ideas, er scams, feed into them and then spend hours talking about them? Why couldn’t we collectively come up with something? I believe there is a great amount of intelligence amongst us. I also believe that most of us live our lives ethically and morally. I see no reason why we can’t collectively figure this “get rich thing” out but do it with integrity. We just need to get outside the box. We have to be willing to get organized somehow as well. As an example, could we all invest a small amount of money creating a large sum and invest it somehow??? Just a thought. Anyone have any ideas or thoughts?

Comment by Bob on June 4, 2005 @ 9:29 pm
72. Just read the posts, and was wondering if anyone has seen this website:
http://www.30min.net, and could tell me if they are a scam.
Seems like they’ve been around for awhile, but don’t know.
Check it out

Comment by Ray Ray on June 6, 2005 @ 12:53 am
73. Ray Ray,

This entire post is about those guys. Stay away!!!

Comment by Bob on June 6, 2005 @ 5:27 am
74. I was a victim of 150percent.com (significant amount lost). So in an effort to recover my losses, I search the net vigorously everyday in hopes of finding something worthwhile. And I just recently came across this site. They are claiming to double my money so it fits with this thread.

http://www.asotinc.com/

Let everyone know what you think.

PS. Apparently they used to be (maybe still are?) http://www.global-marketinginc.com. Something else a little fishy is if you look closely, the site is using Angelfire to host the site (the domain name is just a redirect). If anyone has had previous success/failure with this program, speak up. Thank you.

Comment by ben on June 6, 2005 @ 10:38 am
75. in response to mr “BoB” : Canned Tuna

Comment by napoleon dynamite on June 6, 2005 @ 6:52 pm
76. http://www.30min.net — we’ve done a whois at godaddy.com — they mask identity through a proxy. I have a feeling they might actually hold legitimate claims to give you 150% return; however, the means of attaining these funds may infact be illegitimate. anyone know anything REAL about these people? I emailed their proxy provider for information about the actual person in ownership of the site and to investigate his/her background.

Comment by Anonymous on June 6, 2005 @ 9:26 pm
77. I’ve researched them for the last year. They are definitely A SCAM. If you want some real info about them, just email me at lawlcom@safe-mail.net and I’ll forward you the info.

Comment by Reg on June 7, 2005 @ 8:07 pm
78. I was writing in regards to 30min.net, we started to do egold with them, and so far I have no complaints, but now I’m scared? I have done several transactions with them. could you also email me that information you were talking about?

Comment by Tonya on June 8, 2005 @ 3:17 pm
79. Tonya, I also just tried the 30min.net thing (unfortunetly I did not find this web site first). I have found out what is going on though. My first transaction completed last night and everything was fine till I got an email today from PayPal telling me that the funds were on hold because the sender of the money said they did not autorize it. At first I thought oh oh, they are hacking into innocent peoples PayPal accounts and sending me money out of them to pay me back. Actually, the accounts that they send you the money from are their own. After they pay you, they claim it was “stolen” and get all the money back. Well so far that seems to be what is going on, but who knows. Also, have you noticed that they changed their e-gold account number today? e-gold shut them down again and then like a damn turkey timer they just POPPED right back up. Let me know if you get contacted by PayPal, my email is drivingreens@hotmail.com and let me know what they say.

Comment by Eric on June 8, 2005 @ 6:41 pm
80. Hi reg, I just send you a e-mail,I also opened a account today, and now I am concerned, I even didnt start to invest, and I came across this website. really very thankful to all of you for sharing your experiences.

Comment by sudra on June 10, 2005 @ 12:10 am
81. I informed e-gold about http://www.30min.net and they cut the account off
and I have been sending them the number everytime they change it.
E-Gold now says they are monoriting the site and shutting down the accounts as they change them, we will see how long that lasts, I have also informed PayPal security and they were thankful I brought it to their attention, apparently they just reverse the transaction instead of trying to find the scam artist. I informed the FBI also, apparently they get thousands of cases a month, that is slang for we aren’t going to do anything about it either.
Don’t Do IT Sundra, they are stealing e-gold money and they are hacking into paypal accounts, they are not using their money, the 3 reversals I got were from a soccer mom in Ohio. PayPal does not protect you, they will take that money from you.

http://WWW.30min.NET IS A HUGE SCAM DO NOT FALL FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU DID FALL FOR GO TO YOUR BANK AND HAVE THEM CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT RIGHT AWAY TO KEEP PAYPAL AND POSSIBLY THE SCAMMERS OUT OF IT.

Comment by steve on June 10, 2005 @ 2:40 am
82. I still have not been scammed by them and I have done tons of transactions with them?

Comment by Tonya on June 10, 2005 @ 6:46 am
83. Of course I don’t plan on doing anymore business with them, because my husband stll have not received his money!

Comment by Tonya on June 10, 2005 @ 6:47 am
84. I did too many transaction with them and they were all reversed later. I now loathe Paypal and boycott their services because of the nonexistant protection against situations like this. Over \$2000 was reversed on me before I could withdraw it to my bank. I did manage to get out \$400 before it was reversed so now my paypal is negative \$400 hehe. And paypal is “demanding” I pay that back?? Where’s my \$2000 biotches?!? Sorry for the rant, and off topicness, but Paypal sucks. (maybe they’re in on it too) DO NOT use them for anything cuz it can be reversed instantly. The only thing I might consider maybe using them for is if I sell/buy something tangible. But that’s a big MAYBE.

Comment by ben on June 10, 2005 @ 9:32 am
85. For a minute there I thought I was RICH!
Hi, I want to thank everybody at this website for their ongoing support and knowledge of what is going on and having it put on here.
I came across this site by a link found on http://www.scam.com on a thread started by someone, on these same kind of people.Whats funny was that before all that I was on the “scam” website and being advertised on the right top hand corner of their site was ads by gooogle “Make \$500,000 in 24 hours” (its not there now)once you click on it, it takes you to the 30min.com website. Ok after going through the site I was sold, for a minute there I thought I was rich. And went throught there steps and all that, opened an e-gold account. After that I purchased \$100 of e-gold at some other site they have a link of on at 30min.net. Well to make the long story short after that I had to wait of course for the money to be deposited on my e-gold account and that could have taken 3 days. So in the mean time I was looking up this thing, and trying to find some dirt on it, like a muckraker of the 21st century. I went through http://www.scam.com and this site. After I finished reading this site all 90 posts of it, I immediately canceled my order of e-gold. I’m a happy camper now, because I gained some important information instead of losing some money. Now looking at everything is kind of logic to understand this was a scam all along. There’s a larger lesson to be learned here: any “entrepreneur” who could “invest your money” in such a manner would *NOT* need small fries like you and me to be tossing him/her/them \$1 and \$5 at a time. Anyone who could produce that kind of return (pretending for a moment that it was even possible in a legal and repeatable manner) would have been *flooded* with institutional money to invest.
It seems like these people are not going anywhere, because they keep re-appearing.
Anyways, thanks to all of you! Lets keep others from making the mistake.

Comment by Johnnny on June 10, 2005 @ 9:41 pm
86. I talked to the company that
they agreed to show his name
in the WHOIS database, I don’t
know if this is his real name or not.

Registrant:
Michael Rogers

Domain Name: 30MIN.NET

Domain servers in listed order:
YNS1.YAHOO.COM
YNS2.YAHOO.COM

For complete domain details go to:

Comment by steve on June 11, 2005 @ 2:18 am
87. I got his address and phone number also he is
in california, I contacted the police by email
if they don’t get back to me soon I will call
them. I am 3,000 miles away on the east coast.
This pertains to http://www.30min.net

Comment by steve on June 11, 2005 @ 5:07 am
88. I have his apartment building on satillite
so his address is a real one. Wish I didn’t
live so far away or this guy would have a problem
on his hands big time.

pertains to http://www.30min.net

Comment by steve on June 11, 2005 @ 5:52 am
89. how’d you get all that? let me at him! b–tard owes me \$2000+…unfortunately, I am also too far away…maybe someone who lives close can let us know with a post and then go kick his a– for me. thanks in advance…

Comment by ben on June 12, 2005 @ 1:16 am
90. I would announce the address but I
have to make sure he didn’t also
steal someones identity. You don’t
want to kick the wrong persons a–.
To have your identity stolen and your
a– kicked wouldn’t be fun.

What is telling me that it is the real
person is I found an email address of his
that is not something that was made up
by someone else, this is because of the
length of it and the way it was written.
It also has a suffix on it which would
make him actually Michael Rogers Jr.

Hopefully I can get him arrested soon.

Another thing, PayPal and E-Gold security
departments must take the weekends off and
so does the FBI, I have been trying to get
an agent from the local office to call me
back and I just keep waiting so I might
have to wait until Monday. If I bug and annoy
them long enough they will eventually do
something.

As soon as I am sure and he is arrested I will
definitly post all of his information.

Comment by steve on June 12, 2005 @ 4:51 am
91. If someone were willing to go over there
and then call the police then that would
work. You would have to really create havoc
though. They will probably tell you that they will
tell a detective. Then he will probably run.
Hopefully Monday I can get something done.
I am not out any money because I closed my
bank account before PayPal got to it, but now
I can’t use PayPal and I would have to pay
them \$90 before I could.

I guess this guy has been doing this for a while and
PayPal let’s him do it. Instead of an big organization
like PayPal going after this guy they need one guy like
me to do it for them. That is pitiful.

Comment by steve on June 12, 2005 @ 5:11 am
92. Speaking of paypal, anyone know the ultimate consequences of having a negative balance? At first paypal just says to please make it positive again, blah, blah….but now it has been neg for 45 days now and their emails are getting more demanding..here is quote from the letter:

“As of the date of this letter, the amount due and owing of this
account may include accruing charges, attorneys’ fees, and other charges as provided by the PayPal User Agreement (the “Agreement”). Finance charges continue to accrue on this account to the extent permitted by the Agreement, federal and/or state laws.

Please send full payment to PayPal within one week of this letter by adding funds to your PayPal account according to the instructions below. If we do not receive payment, we will be entitled to file a lawsuit against you for collection of the debt. It is also possible that we will refer the matter to an independent collection agency so that they may pursue the debt on our behalf.”

Can they do this? I am the victim here and they are going after me like I’m some sort of thief. Anyone here know any lawyers that could help me out or confirm paypal actions? Thanks in advance again…

Comment by ben on June 12, 2005 @ 10:07 am
93. They gave me 120 days to pay or they
will close the account. Mine is only
negative \$90, If yours is 2,000 they
might try to sue you. They might have
a bill collector start calling you.
Depending on where you live they might
choose to sue you, but if they can’t
get attornies fees then they probably
won’t and will just have a bill collector
hound you for years. That is just my thoughts.
You actually made an agreement with them when
you signed up, I guess the agreement says you are
unprotected in a situation like this, I didn’t know
I made an agreement with them either until this happened.

I contacted Yahoo this morning, I found out this scammer
had his site hosted with GeoCities, they didn’t email me
back but it seems they shut the site down.

I will get back with an update soon.

Comment by steve on June 12, 2005 @ 4:20 pm
94. Thank GOD I read all these posts. I was showing my husband the 30min.net site and asking what he thought. He seemed interested but I noted the website name was nowhere to be found. And the fact you could only email them seemed fishy as well. I have invested nothing, as I chose to investigate it further. It’s a shame that people can take money and run while paypal sits back and says “Oh well…” Thanks again to everyone for posting their experiences and saving the rest of us from these losers!

Comment by Donna on June 12, 2005 @ 9:12 pm
95. I confirmed it http://www.30min.net
has been suspended for abuse.

I hope I get some email replies back
that he has been caught.

I will post back with an update.

Comment by steve on June 13, 2005 @ 6:52 am
96. As far as Paypal is concerned, if you do not pay your negative balance within 180 days, they will send the balance to NCO Financial, their in house bill collector. Once it gets to them, all you have to do is tell them (when they call) that you wish to dispute EVERYTHING and they, by law, have to send it back to Paypal and Paypal, by law, has to prove that you are truly in debt. I would higher a lawyer to defend you with this as well. Further, if they attempt to put it on your credit report, you have the legal right to dispute it and, since you are the victim, would most likely have it removed.

As far as trying to go after the person who lives in California, unfortunately, it isn’t him who is running the scam. Each time they register a new domain, the search the residential white pages for a new name and use it to register the domain. Since registration details on domain names are not verified, anyone can do that.

Most of the scammers in the ring are located on the east coast. I know this because all of their transaction times are in EST/EDT. Scammers outside of the country never use American-based time. Rather, they use GMT.

Comment by Reg on June 13, 2005 @ 7:01 am
97. One way or another that will be
confirmed.

Comment by steve on June 13, 2005 @ 7:12 am
98. I just checked the original
transactions and they were
Pacific Daylight Time : PDT

Comment by steve on June 13, 2005 @ 7:35 am
99. The transactions are going to be in PDT because that’s where Paypal is located. In one email conversation I had with them, they wrote that they send all of their prepayments at around 5:00pm EST. I still have that email from them. When I traced the email message, it went back to an open proxy located on the west coast. However, I was able to obtain a cacheflow log off of the proxy server (the server was just a simple open proxy with NO security), I traced it back to the east coast. However, the ISP being used was a prepaid dialup number so there was no way to get a physical location.

Just noticed today that 30min.net is down so let’s all keep our eyes open for the next one.

Comment by Reg on June 13, 2005 @ 9:49 am
100. They are down because I
complained to Yahoo Abuse.
As soon as I did that it
took some hours and then they
took it down.

Comment by steve on June 13, 2005 @ 10:02 am
101. Now I have got information
that they were operating out
of Eastern Europe, probably
using a stolen credit card.
Not sure but if it is true
it stinks.

Comment by steve on June 13, 2005 @ 12:09 pm
102. It’s actually a ring of them. Some are located in the US, some are located over seas. Honestly, I *wish* they were using stolen credit cards. If they were, they would have been caught by now. I won’t go into detail as to what they are actually doing here, but if you are interested steve, email me at lawlcom@safe-mail.net and I’ll give you all the details.

Comment by Reg on June 13, 2005 @ 3:51 pm
103. I’m glad I read all of this before investing. I was trying to find 30min.net earlier today because I was all ready to start investing. Fortunately, the e-gold I bought hasn’t transfered into my account so I wasn’t able to do much yet.
Any ideas what I can now do with a small amount of e-gold? Are there any legit sites to invest a small amount in or do they all require a larger sum?

Comment by Kim on June 13, 2005 @ 4:45 pm
104. i was also thinking of investing in 30min.net didnt send any money though! i just told him i wanted to invest 20.00 after not getting any sort of reply i started doing research and found this site!! THANKS A LOT EVERYONE!!! i was almost on the verge of another payment to paypal if i woul have completed it. on my buget thats one thing i dont need is to owe something else! i think ill look into http://www.syncinvest.com it looks legit enough! i got all this e-gol and nothing to do with it! THANKS EVERYONE

Comment by brian on June 13, 2005 @ 9:25 pm
105. Kim, I have a few places that I am investing in right now. It’s no where near the return that 30min.net offered, but it is considered way higher than any financial institution and therefore, carries a higher risk. If you or anyone is interested I can give you the links. Just email me at kumkwatz@hotmail.com and I’ll send you the links. You can view the sites and then decide for yourself if you want to invest or not. So far, they have been paying for over a month. Syncinvest is one of them, but lately they’ve been “under attack” (so they claim) and haven’t been able to pay. They have come back before and I hope they come back again this time.

If there are any serious (big bucks) investors, I also have a contact that can set you up with a proven autotrader. Required minimum is \$5000. Recommended minimum \$10,000.

Good luck everyone!

Comment by ben on June 13, 2005 @ 10:05 pm
106. I went tp http://www.syncinvest.com
Just an email form to send email
no email address or phone number.

That isn’t a good sign.

Apparently they are located in
Dominica, West Indies in the
Carribean.

A recent CIA fact for Dominica:
transshipment point for narcotics bound for the US and Europe; minor cannabis producer; anti-money-laundering enforcement is weak, making the country particularly vulnerable to money laundering

Syncinvest is actually:
in Dominica.

Andrew Artz and Michael Nolan
are the registrants and contacts.

Their IP location is out of Hong Kong.

Looks like there webhost is out of: Russia

I went to their forum and it looks like the
people there haven’t, heard nor recieved any
anything from them along time.

I won’t be using their services.

Comment by steve on June 14, 2005 @ 12:36 pm
107. Havent seen this site in a while. I’ve been searching for their newest gig, but have not found it. Can anyone please tell me their new site? Also, can you guys tell me what they classify their paypal purchases as…ie good, services or whatever, and if they include any additional comments towards the payments…thanks.
Regards,
Matt Clark

Comment by Matt Clark on June 14, 2005 @ 2:33 pm
108. Do you mean goods? And also, when they send the money, they sent me 4.50 and I dont remember what they classified it as or if they made comments..maybe someone else does, sorry. As to new sites i think 150percent.com is under construction???

Comment by Joe on June 14, 2005 @ 5:33 pm
109. This site is awesome. I came accross http://www.30min.net/
and thought it was a dream come true. But after reading all the other post I’am so thankful I found this site. You guys saved me from a lot of
heart break.

Comment by Joe on June 14, 2005 @ 11:57 pm
110. I tried that 30min.net with small amounts. First \$20 and then \$40. I used my paypal account and then my husband’s. I received a return both times, and then I just bought \$50 more e-gold, only to find out now that their website is not working. Now I have all this e-gold and nothing to do with it. I just want to be able to make a little extra money to pay some bills. Is there anything out there that’s legitimate? I am glad that I saw this site and saw all the scams that are out there.

Comment by patti on June 15, 2005 @ 5:58 am
111. Yeah, paypal and e-gold will not do anything about it, they will just refund the money and say “oh well, better call the FBI”.

Heres what e-gold had to say:
We have investigated and placed a value limit on all accounts associated
with 30min.net, which will prevent them from receiving any more e-gold.
Unfortunately we will not be able to refund your money because all e-gold
spends are final and not reversible as stated in the e-gold account user
agreement. e-gold is also contractually prohibited from freezing accounts
in the absence of a court order or subpoena. You might want to consider
obtaining some combination of help from a legal professional or law
enforcement to obtain a court order or subpoena, if the size of your loss
warrants expenditure of your resources (time and money) to resolve.

Thank You,
Due Diligence Unit

And here’s what paypal had to say:
Thank you for contacting PayPal. We apologize for the delay in responding

In accordance with PayPal’s Seller Protection Policy, the following
transaction(s) involving unauthorized funds have been reversed:

Transaction Date: Jun. 11, 2005 02:45:22 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$0.27 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 11, 2005 20:01:22 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$148.50 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 12, 2005 08:28:40 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$150.00 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 12, 2005 09:34:39 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$75.00 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 12, 2005 10:19:40 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$375.00 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 12, 2005 13:10:48 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$65.00 USD

The transaction(s) did not qualify for Seller Protection because:

Â· Because comparable proof-of-shipment is not currently available for
electronically-delivered items, we are currently unable to offer Seller
Protection for digital goods and other electronically-delivered item

Â· The payment was not listed as “Seller Protection Policy Eligible” on
the Transaction Details page

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Comment by Joe on June 15, 2005 @ 7:03 am
112. when the scammers sent you
Transaction Date: Jun. 11, 2005 20:01:22 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$148.50 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 12, 2005 08:28:40 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$150.00 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 12, 2005 09:34:39 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$75.00 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 12, 2005 10:19:40 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$375.00 USD

Transaction Date: Jun. 12, 2005 13:10:48 PDT
Transaction Amount: \$65.00 USD

Those things, what did they classify the money as. When you send money you must describe it. Did they leave the desciptional comments blank? Cuz those are optional…?

Comment by Matt on June 15, 2005 @ 8:00 am
113. It didnt classify the money and it doesnt say what it was for so i assume they left it blank?

Comment by Joe on June 15, 2005 @ 8:38 am
114. Everybody Has to realize that
30min.net was a scam operation

And they have been banned for abuse.

ABUSE is a another word for “stealing your money”

They are done for now and I will certainly be on their
trail.

Honestly the 150percent.com site has been shut down
because of these scam artists and 30min.net site
has been shut down because of these scam artists and
yet there is an IDIOT that is still willing to send
the scam artists his money, what a stupid idiot!

DO NOT SEND ANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT PROMISE TO GET
YOU 150% OF YOUR MONEY BACK, THEY ARE STEALING FROM YOU!!!!
YOU WILL NOW HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY THAT YOU RECIEVED BACK
AND YOU WILL HAVE LOST THE MONEY YOU SENT THE SCAMMERS!!!!!!
Do Not Be Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by steve on June 15, 2005 @ 10:19 am
115. My brother wrote that last post
he was on my computer when I was
out. He got scammed too. So you could
see the frustration.

Comment by steve on June 17, 2005 @ 2:39 pm
116. Ok another scam in the works

http://multiplepaychecks.com/

This guy at first seems to be one guy
and then it turns out to be two guys

What they do is sell you a \$19.95

Book as they call it, it is not a book
or an ebook it is web pages and that is it.

This scumbag tells you nothing, and then wants
you to pay \$197.00 for his course.

But he then tells you that the \$197.00 course is
course.

Do Not Fall For This Scammer Either.

I am tired and I have to sleep or I would continue.

Comment by steve on June 17, 2005 @ 2:57 pm
117. Is paypal gonna send lawyers and creditors after me for having a negative \$400 balance? It was a result of this 150percent.com scam.

Comment by ben on June 18, 2005 @ 12:37 am
118. If you have a negative balance in Paypal and do not pay it within 180 days, they forward to their in-house collection agency. You can then dispute it and force them to verify that you in fact owe them money.

Comment by Reg on June 18, 2005 @ 11:27 pm
119. I was wondering if you guys could take a look at these HYIP sites and tell me if they are for real. I’ve got some money invested with them right now, not much though. I too was inticed by the 30min.net site. I had sent them an email, but never heard back from them. Lukily when I went back to the site it was unavailable. Anyway, here are the sites I would like you all to look at and let me know if they really are a scam:

Like I said, I don’t have much invested, and what is invested, I can afford to loose. Any info on these sites would be greatly appreciated.

Comment by Scott on June 21, 2005 @ 12:13 pm
120. To help you with those hyip sites, you can check with some of the following hyip review sites. Check the comments for each program in each site to see how often they’ve been paying, if they only pay small amounts, etc. I am investing in some also, email me if you wanna know which programs I am in. (email address posted in previous post)

Good luck!

Comment by ben on June 21, 2005 @ 6:58 pm
121. Ive never seen any of those HYIP sites, so i cant tell you if they are good or not. I wouldnt invest in anything, unless they can show you proof of payment like studiotraffic. They show their checks and other payments from studiotraffic on the site.

http://www.studiotraffic.com/index.php

Comment by Bill on June 21, 2005 @ 7:11 pm
122. I got this from another forum and it says it all, also anyone can show proof of payment these days without paying anyone. The scammers know that.

There are certain indications that are usually typical for scams. In
the case of StudioTraffic.com, I have found a number of these
indications.

I. The lack of proper contact information
Reputable companies do not conceal their real address, phone and fax
numbers. Scam companies do this, and so does also StudioTraffic. Their
address is not listed anywhere on their website. I have checked for
the owner of their domain name, and the result is most suspicious. The
domain has been registered for StudioTraffic by a company named “Whois
Privacy Protection Service, Inc”. This is one of the anonymizer
services spammers and scammers use to avoid being traced by their
victims. A reputable company just does not have any reason to hide
their face.

I have searched the Usenet archives and found out that in numerous
cases, StudioTraffic has been advertised by persons who are
suspiciously enthusiastic about the service – and who have been
“make money fast”, “make money by surfing the Web”, “get paid for
surveys” services. I have no doubt that they are professional spammers
who regularly advertise obscure scam companies, using anonymous and
easily replacable Yahoo and Hotmail e-mail accounts. A reputable
company does not use such means of advertising their services.

III. Sign-up fee
As a general rule: If a company demands a sign-up fee and similar
payments for granting you the privilege of working for them, then it’s
scam time. I have had a look at the FAQs – and there is not the
slightest guarantee that you will ever earn notable amounts of money
after having signed up with them. Basically, they use many words to
say: ‘You give us money, and after that there is a slight chance but
no whatsoever guarantee that you will earn any money. You can give us
more money, but that won’t change anything except that your account
status will have a more fancy name’. Or, as they say in their FAQ:
“Are payouts guaranteed at Studiotraffic? – We cannot guarantee
earnings…”

IV. Discrepancy between claims and reality
I have found virtually thousands of sites, forum postings and Usenet
postings that enthusiastically praise StudioTraffic – allegedly by
users, but the word choice looks amazingly similar in many cases, down
to identical phrases. Many included magniloquent statements, along the
lines of the “phenomenal growth” of the service. But there are not
many postings of people who have actually earned noteworthy amounts,
although one should assume that the huge number of enthusiastic users
must be proud of their easy money and tell the world how much they
earned. Much advertising disguised as customer opinions, but very few
manifest cases of success – highly suspicious.

My conclusion: Be cautious. StudioTraffic demand money without
ensuring earnings, use questionable ways of advertising, and hide
their identitiy and location behind an anonymizing service. That is
not the behaviour of a respectable company. Even if they are
reputable, their behaviour disqualifies them. I advise against signing
up with them.

Comment by steve on June 22, 2005 @ 2:22 pm
123. Just thought I would put a bug in everyone’s ear about some of these sites that have a ?ref###### at the end of the link. Take a close look at the sites that were shut down due to scams or problematic programs here: http://www.myhyip.com/scam2004.htm

You’ll notice a lot of sites that have the ?ref626030 at the end. Be VERY weary about any site that has that at the end of the link. I just realized that 2 of the sites that I had spend to have this ref #626030. Ironically, if you pay some sort of attention when visiting these sites, you should notice something they all seem to have in common. POOR GRAMMER!!! Not that mine is of Harvard standards, but just lots of common sense mistakes. I’m now going to be praying that I get something back from them when I’m supposed to. Several HYIP sites that I’ve been to have all said the sites were paying. We’ll see. I’ll let you all know if I got taken to the cleaners!

Comment by Scott on June 23, 2005 @ 4:36 pm
124. Well, it seems that http://www.makeyourinvestment.com has a spend limit impossed on the egold account. Not a good thing. Also, http://www.hyiptreasures.com seems to have folded. When you try to go to the site, you are redirected to the 1800flowers site.

Comment by Scott on June 24, 2005 @ 9:56 am
125. You are right about the poor grammer, any site that
is dealing with these kind of funds should have atleast

One site said “look in paypal you fund be tere”

Comment by steve on June 24, 2005 @ 11:00 am
126. Here is one that is hiding:

dutchservice.com

Let me know if anyone of you have dealt
with them.

Comment by steve on July 17, 2005 @ 8:30 am
127. Here is their next scam site http://www.qmoney.cc/faq.html

Comment by john on July 21, 2005 @ 11:15 am
128. I invested \$50.00 and the following day I received \$75.00 in my
paypal account. I still have the 75.00 and I will probably
invest it all back. The way I see it I made \$25.00 on this.
Lets say I do keep on reinvesting what I get from the \$75.00
and they take it all once it has made more profit I will only loose \$50
that was mine. you can loose this much or more on Work at Home Scams.
sample!!! \$75×150%=112.50, \$112.50×150%=\$168.75,\$168.75×150%=\$253.13etc.
reinvest 22 times and apparently you end up with \$560,937.00.?????

Comment by Belinda Sandoval on August 1, 2005 @ 5:04 pm
129. Great info people…

Thanks.

:)

Comment by Thanks on August 3, 2005 @ 8:50 am
130. I was going to say that they are back, but someone has already posted the info. Stay alert people, they’re at it again.

Comment by Reg on August 4, 2005 @ 8:29 am
131. after reading all the comments about the 30min website I thought it sounded VERY familiar to a website that I had just about fallen for. It’s the qmoney.cc/faq/html website. I actually had gotten an egold account and had made an order for a purchase of egold this morning and was probalby hours away from investing. Thank you so much everyone!!!!!I will not be scammed this time. Has anyone had any experience with canceling an egold order. It’s not very large, but I’d just like to cancel it and get on with my life.

Comment by kendra on August 11, 2005 @ 10:07 am
132. I came across these postings by chance when doing a Google search! Really interesting reading!
You may be interested in a safe reliable investment site. You can only join by private invitation. When you join you are given a \$50 bonus which is released when your own investment matches it. You can start with as little as \$1. There are various options with your investments. VERY professional! If you’re interested email networking@networking4you.net with “Private Invitation” in the subject line.
Cheers everyone.
Helen

Comment by Helen on August 11, 2005 @ 2:39 pm
133. http://www.qmoney.cc should be down soon. E-Gold is getting a daily abuse report and limiting the accounts when they open them.
All the companies have been notified of the scam. This is the same thing that was done to get 30min.net shut down. When they try it again post thier url here and they will be shut down again. Unfortunately they steal and get away with it and enjoy the stolen cash and the good honest people have to waste thier time and money over and over again to stop them. It’s a shame.

Comment by steve on August 29, 2005 @ 6:30 pm
134. Well I invested a large amount(to me)\$2000 in qmoney.cc before I read this thread. I did recieve the 150% they promised and imediatly (spelling) wired the funds to my bank account. My paypal is currently at a zero balance. So if these funds are reversed will I be responsible by law to re-pay this amount even though I’m the victim? Is paypal able to reverse funds from my actual bank acount or just from their acounts? Also if paypal is this sloppy I am now concerned about the safety of my bank account. I think I will close it and reopen another asap.

Comment by Robert on September 3, 2005 @ 3:03 pm
135. Close your account. Then you should be reversed very soon.
They have a in house bill collector that will be calling you.
They have stolen your 2,000 plus you will have to pay paypal
back the money the scammers sent you. This makes me sick!!!!

Comment by steve on September 4, 2005 @ 10:02 am
136. So if I don’t pay this money back it will basicly screw my credit and I will have collections agency calling me till the matter is settled just like if you go delinquet on a credit card? How about this for a little pay-back. The qmoney.cc site gaurantees you a 150% return on your money. They actually did credit my Paypal before I sent them e-gold. So lets say I set up a different paypal account and “invest” in them again they send me the money, I withdraw the funds and don’t send them payment. If they are stealing money from other paypals to run a scam how could they rebuttle against me when the basis of their “company” is a fraud? Also when these paypal police start to call me why won’t they take the explanation that I was scammed and go after the real criminal. Can paypal legally persue collection of this money?

Comment by Robert on September 5, 2005 @ 2:33 pm
137. The people they are stealing from are the ones who find out their
account has been hacked and tell paypal so no matter what you do
it will come back to you.
Look at it this way:
1. You are not paying them from a paypal account. You are putting
money into an e-gold account which cannot be reversed, once you send
the money it is gone.
2. They will send you money upfront hoping that you will send them
the money from your e-gold account.
3. It doesn’t matter to them if the upfront money that they send you
is paid on, it is not theirs to begin with, why would they send you let’s say \$1,500 and only expect \$1,000 in return.
4. Paypal has a limit on withdrawls per day, week ,and month I believe
and the upfront money they send you will still have to be paid back by you.
It is a lose, lose situation.
5. The upfront money and the threat of prosecution is just really a ruse to make you believe they are legit, it just something to lure you

When you sign up for paypal you make an agreement with them and that is what they go by to guard themselves and come after you.

They do not care if you were scammed.

Comment by steve on September 8, 2005 @ 10:31 am
138. If I recall correctly they didn’t ask for my SS# when I signed up for the account so they really can’t mess up my credit. I think all they can really do is harass me into paying the money. I refuse to pay the full ammount back. I am willing to pay back the “profit” I got from this but certainly not the initial investment.

Comment by Robert on September 8, 2005 @ 8:31 pm
139. http://www.qmoney.cc is shut down.

The problem is that you recieved stolen cash that was taken from
a members account. PayPal will not care what you lost, they already
replaced the money in the members account.
I would also add that I could be wrong, but there is a greater chance
that I am correct.

Comment by steve on September 10, 2005 @ 1:13 pm
140. Well I think they are back again — thank god I found this website, before I thought about doing any business with them.

Here is the website: http://www.riskfreeinvest.com

Comment by Marie on September 11, 2005 @ 12:28 pm
141. hi, to all, i know you know about
http://www.riskfreeinvest.com/ , but what you don’t is that there is a catch, here’s the catch (DO NOT PUT YOUR MONEY IN E-GOLD BY USING THIS DOUBLER) YES IT IS A SCAM.. WHAT YOU MUST DO IS GAVE THEM YOUR INFO, YES YOU MUST HAVE A PAYPAL ACCOUNT, ONCE YOU HAVE EMAIL THEM SAYING HOW MUCH YOU WANT, (MUST BE UNDER \$10,000) IMMEDITELY TRANFER YOUR MONEY IN PAYPAL TO YOUR BANKING ACCOUNT (& I MEAN FAST) THEN YOU WIN

Comment by jameen on September 12, 2005 @ 10:42 am
142. Hey there,

In reply to Post#90, I have tried ASOT Inc. I have been to a few meetings and seminars with the founder of this program ( do not know him personally), he is VERY VERY superstitious, and that’s why he uses Angelfire to this day. he originally took off likea rocket while working with that hosting company, so he faithfully uses it still to this day. However Angelfire is not FREE, he pays for the EXPENSIVE version of it. I think that company uses the highest paid subscription to angelfire there is.

Anyways, back on to my glory story ( i like to call it). I’ve been with ASOT since the last two months.

I’ve cleared over \$450,000.00 USD. I’ve actually MADE in profit about \$25,000.00 Its a very nice company and very very successful. They’ve also changed their website http://www.asotinc.net is the new one now. Enjoy!

Comment by James on September 13, 2005 @ 1:37 am
143. Ok, so riskfreeinvest sent me money. They sent me \$1200 in my paypal! And then I found this site, lol. I called paypal and told them and they told me to refund the money. The money coming to me was hacked out of someone’s account. They told me that riskfreeinvest.com is a SCAM and they knew this. They also told me to run a virus scan to make sure there wasnt anything recording my paypal account password.

Comment by Andy on September 14, 2005 @ 4:46 pm
144. http://www.riskfreeinvest.com/

They should be shut down very soon.

Comment by steve on September 15, 2005 @ 4:35 pm
I’m new to this doubling thing, trying to figure it out if I’m seeing this correctly You say you cleared over \$450,000.00 USD.and your actually profit is about \$25,000.00 ??? does that mean you invested \$425,000.00 and the profit was \$25,000.00 = \$450,000.00 ??? and if you had \$425,000.00 to invest why would you take that kind of chance just to get a profit of \$25,000.00. and acording to there web site you should have a profit of about \$900,000.00.that would be double of \$450,000.00, WHAT YOU STATED JUST DON’T SOUND RIGHT TO ME.I was thinking about joining this site http://www.asotinc.net but now?I don’t know

Comment by KEW on September 16, 2005 @ 3:02 am
146. OPPS:
acording to there web site you should have a profit of about \$450,000.00
that would be double of \$450,000.00 =\$900,000.00

Comment by KEW on September 16, 2005 @ 3:06 am
147. I actually am one of the many PayPal users whose account was hacked somehow… So I can confirm that these frauds are stealing money from others to send to those who are sending them money. I have no idea how they hacked in, perhaps it’s someone on the inside? All I do know is that when I checked my credit card online there were temporary authorizations for paypal that I didn’t authorize… Furthermore, when I did access paypal, they didn’t show up in the recent activity area, which I found odd. I had to look under all activity. So somebody is trying to buy time while these funds clear.

Anyways, I have been a member of PayPal’s for a few years now and unfortunately, I don’t feel that they are doing enough to control this. I would suggest that anyone with a PayPal account deactivate it as I will be, I know I wouldn’t want an incompetent company being the middleman for my money.

Best of luck to everyone. Paypal did reverse the charges and did send my money back. But, I don’t think I am going to allow it to happen again.

Comment by chris on September 17, 2005 @ 12:46 am
148. Another similar scam: http://www.refin.cc

Comment by Reg on September 24, 2005 @ 10:17 am
149. http://www.refin.cc
http://www.qmoney.cc
http://www.riskfreeinvest.com
http://www.30min.net
These 4 scam sites are run by the same scammers, 2 of the 4 are
shut down. http://www.riskfreeinvest.com is being hosted by a host
company that hosts scam sites out of Russia possibly.
Keep posting their new sites.

Comment by steve on September 25, 2005 @ 4:46 pm
150. we need to start giving people information about how to stop scams.

Comment by samuel oyekanmi on September 26, 2005 @ 2:37 pm
151. I think that education is one of the best ways that we as citizens and consumers can stop scams, and reporting ones that we see to the authorities who can arrest people and shut things down that way.

You can entirely stop the scam from taking your own money when you just don’t participate in it.

Comment by DavidH on September 27, 2005 @ 5:29 pm

No, I originally started with about \$5,000.00, i kept reinvesting it when it doubled, til it reached to the amount of \$450,000.00. Every now and then I would withdraw some of it, I’ve actually seen \$25,000.00 of my money in my bank. I’ve doubled to OVER \$450,000.00 and so far have actually spent my \$25,000.00.

Comment by James on October 3, 2005 @ 12:54 pm
153. Hi,Oct3,05
What do you think about http://www.worldofgold.biz and infinex-fund.com?
They have taken my egold and are not replying to my email.
The ‘worst’part of it is that they have a forum to discuss grievances of investors!
Any idea on how to get my funds back???
milindjeste@Safe-mail.net

MIL

Comment by mil on October 3, 2005 @ 5:43 pm
154. If my husband did this and the money is in his paypal account; should he just contact PayPAL. If they find that it came from a stolen Paypal account and reverse it then can the so called person who stole it and put it there reverse it also and then he is in the nagative????

Comment by Cally on October 5, 2005 @ 10:46 am
155. Question to James Post #170

When I initially invest will I have to wait 30 days for my money to double? Do they always take out a 25% fee even if the money I’m going to double is already there and not a new spend?

Comment by Robert on October 6, 2005 @ 12:17 am
156. I found the guy name and address … and e-mail address…
edward_laxton@yahoo.com.co.uk

minneapolis,minnesota 55435
us telephone number … 508-739-4834

and his status is active ….

Comment by Anonymous on October 6, 2005 @ 3:17 pm

Yes you’ll have to wait 30 days for your account to be fully activated. They do this to stop Credit Card Fraud, to stop chargebacks, among other illegal activites.

They only take out their 25% fee, whenever you add more to your account. Your first deposit will have the 25% taken out. When your account gains its interest, they do not take out ANYTHING for that. All the money that gains is YOURS. However, when and if you make ANOTHER deposit into your account to gain more interest, they will take 25% out of that. Only 25% comes out when you make fresh spends. When your account gains interest, they do NOT touch that.

Question to James Post #170

When I initially invest will I have to wait 30 days for my money to double? Do they always take out a 25% fee even if the money Iâ€™m going to double is already there and not a new spend?

Comment by James on October 8, 2005 @ 11:42 pm
158. I have a question, reguarding the stormpay and asotinc. can someone please tell me whats goin on with this stormpay withdrawal from asotinc, isn’t the 180 days over with when will asotinc get our money back form strompay, i do do know that asotinc got there lawyers, but what else?????????

Comment by jameen walker on October 13, 2005 @ 9:22 am
159. Yes i have read all of your comments i found this intresting i found a way to stop the scammers what u do u make a ghost account u send them ur 100 ect ect dollars and they wud send u ur 200 etc etc back then you send that extra 100 dollars into your main paypal account and you could repeat the process. all you need on paypal is ur cc and you can make up to 3 account with your 1 cc then when you are done taking there money you close your ghost paypal account after sending all the money to your main account.

All in all you need 2 paypal accounts one with just your credit card to receive the money from the scammer and then with the money you got from scaming them you send into your main paypal account which has your bank account on it!!! thus far scamming the scammer with 100% of not getting scammed

Comment by Todd Poston on October 16, 2005 @ 9:21 am
160. btw after sending the money to your main paypal account close the ghost account!!!! Another tip dont do this at home do this at your local library or they could get your I.P adress and track your a– down :P feel free to add me on msn-joyin04@aol.com

Comment by Todd Poston on October 16, 2005 @ 9:23 am
161. So asotinc.net is legit?

Comment by Robert on October 18, 2005 @ 1:01 am
162. If you do that you are not scamming the scammer.
goal.
You would be stealing the stolen money that you got
from the scammer.

Comment by Steve on October 20, 2005 @ 5:29 am

Yes, asotinc.net is legit.

Comment by James on October 25, 2005 @ 2:51 am
164. I was thinking about investing in one of these programs, and I am curious if anybody has used them before or has had any kind of experience with them. Any help would be welcomed.

Comment by Vlad on October 29, 2005 @ 1:41 am
165. I’m writing about asotinc.net, If this is a lagit company, when I go to the site and e-mail them to see if they are with the BBB they should say yes and provide info on this correct? And if so why can’t they set up an account with there web site, and when your money doubles you can ask for so much back and instead of dealing with pay pal or any of the other one’s out there, Just mail a check!

Comment by Anonymous on November 3, 2005 @ 12:39 pm
166. Well, first off, there is no need to be a member of the BBB. The BBB is just the middle man between problems with the consumer and the company. But what you just asked is exactly what they do. When your money matures, you have the option of reinvesting it all, or withdrawing it to your bank. Now the reason they use PaySwiss, is because would you rather wait a week to get your money, or just a few minutes? Me, I’d like to have it instantly, THATS why they use PaySwiss, instead of mailing checks.

Iâ€™m writing about asotinc.net, If this is a lagit company, when I go to the site and e-mail them to see if they are with the BBB they should say yes and provide info on this correct? And if so why canâ€™t they set up an account with there web site, and when your money doubles you can ask for so much back and instead of dealing with pay pal or any of the other oneâ€™s out there, Just mail a check!

Comment by James on November 7, 2005 @ 11:20 am
167. This info has been very enlightening. I’m really glad that I read all of the posts. Excellent info.

Comment by carolyn on November 8, 2005 @ 3:47 pm
168. I was just wondering if anyone else has invested any money with asotinc.net, and if so has it truly been profitable. I am going to invest money with there company, but want to be sure that they are not like the other companys that you have been talking about. Please let me know. Thanks

Comment by Jason on November 13, 2005 @ 8:15 pm
169. http://www.riskfreeinvest.com
These scammers have given up.
E-Gold was shutting down thier accounts
soon as they changed them.

Also I have a reliable save place to invest.
Email me at Matty1965@aol.com and put the word
“Invest” in the subjectline and I will get back
to you.

Comment by Steve on November 15, 2005 @ 5:22 am

On their home page it states that enough people have to join the program in order for your money to double. Yet they gaurantee it will double every 7 days. Have you ever had your money not double every seven days?

Comment by Robert on December 1, 2005 @ 8:51 am
171. I have found another website that claims the exact same thing as all of the others and I did’t see it mentioned anywhere on any of the other postings. This one is called http://www.icash.cc. It seems to be the same kind of scam. Thankfully I did not invest anything because I found this website. Thanks for everyones info!

Comment by Jessica on December 6, 2005 @ 6:43 pm
172. http://www.icash.cc. are the same scammers that we have been talking about.

WARNING DO NOT GO TO THIS SITE

WWW>fast-market>biz

I put it that way so a link would’t activate.

IF YOU A FEELING CURIOUS AND GO TO THE SITE
IT WILL PUT SPYWARE ON YOUR COMPUTER JUST
BY GOING TO THE LINK, DON’T DO IT.

The site is out of the Russian Federation
and is a Scam.

Also I have a reliable save place to invest.
Email me at Matty1965@aol.com and put the word
â€œInvestâ€ in the subjectline and I will get back
to you.

Comment by Steve on December 8, 2005 @ 8:57 am
173. http://www.refin.cc is another they claim to make you a profit in 30 minutes and give you the money upfront sent to your paypal account. When i emailed them for their passphrase for e-gold to invest with their money they never responded.

Comment by Kristal on December 9, 2005 @ 7:38 pm
174. The reason they probably didn’t respond
is that PayPal got a handle on the way they
were hacking into their customers accounts.
http://www.refin.cc
http://www.qmoney.cc
http://www.riskfreeinvest.com
http://www.30min.net
http://www.icash.cc.

All the above sites are the same
scammers, e-gold was on to them also.

I’ll keep the rest to myself in case they
(the scammers are watching)

Also I have a reliable save place to invest.
Email me at Matty1965@aol.com and put the word
â€œInvestâ€ in the subjectline and I will get back
to you.

Comment by Steve on December 12, 2005 @ 10:39 am
175. Has anyone heard of 12dailypro.com? An autosurf webswite where you invest in increments of \$6, and all you need to do is surf up to 30 websites a day, and receive a 12% return on your investment after 12 days?

Comment by Tam on December 18, 2005 @ 3:52 pm
176. Alot of people are saying it is a scam
and alot of people are saying it isn’t.
More are saying it isn’t.

The guy that registered the business in
North Carolina also registered 14 other
“LLC” companies in 2005.

12DailyPro is actually LifeClicks LLC
and was formed on September 8,2005.

Just a few months ago.

I would be very careful.

Somebody who is registering 14 LLC companies
in a year, is either very good or has found away
to beat the system. Just my opinion of course.

The mailing address for LifeClicks is an Apartment
Number.

Whooooops Just found out something!!!!

He is an Attorney who handles Bankruptcy Cases.

BEWARE.

Also I have a reliable save place to invest.
Email me at Matty1965@aol.com and put the word
â€œInvestâ€ in the subjectline and I will get back
to you.

Comment by Steve on December 19, 2005 @ 6:46 pm
177. I invested in Icash.cc numerous times before I read anything about the reversal of funds from paypal. I still think that there’s a way to beat their system. I have still been investing in Icash.cc, and I have been trying my best to save any evidence of what I have done. I have sent them numerous emails, and I have saved all of them and their replies. I even video taped myself sitting at my computer for one hour, as my transaction was processed. I think I have some pretty good evidence, (if i ever was accused of fraudental activity,) that would stand in court. I have even spoken with my attorney, and he says that if there was a reversal, we could take it to court, and probably win (with the evidence i have.)

Comment by Jeremy on December 30, 2005 @ 1:52 pm
178. Regretfully I have been telling people
that I have a safe and reliable place to
invest.

Unfortunately the company has been involved
in alot of turmoil just in the last week or so.
I don’t know what happened but they were safe
for along time.

Instead of recommending them I now have to

The company is FASTMARKET, with a .com domain.

Don’t Invest there.

A few people have invested there and I hope they
get their money out of there.

I truely had no idea and didn’t see this coming at all.
I am very sorry.

Comment by Steve on January 2, 2006 @ 7:47 am
179. hello, i read the articles and i must say that is too true to be real. would love to ask a question has any one wonder why the payment is made via e gold and the income is made via apypal, while not back via egold account.
thanks

Comment by patrick on January 2, 2006 @ 8:20 am
180. Did any one of you with Asotinc.net have nay problems when paying in? I have sent money to AsotPay via Western Union but it still is not in my account. I have also sent emails to the admin of Asot Pay and Asotinc. Hopefully I should get a positive reply soon. Will keep you guys posted. But I would like to know if anyone else had a similar espereince and what was the outcome.
Regards,
Vegshark.

Comment by vegshark on January 4, 2006 @ 11:46 am

Comment by Vicky on January 5, 2006 @ 12:28 am
182. I tried ICash.cc twice and they paid, both times were for relatively small sums. That was several weeks ago. I was about to invest larger sums, but decided to do more research. Found you guys and boy am I glad I did! Praying the chargebacks aren’t yet to come. I actually emailed them and told them I had alot more to invest with them and now I’m thinking that maybe they haven’t charged back my Paypal account because they’re waiting for me to drop the big bucks. Hard to believe people are so dishonest. Also, I’m emarrassed to admit I was so naive to think 50% every 30 minutes was for real.

James, thanks for the ASOT info. I have checked it out and it looks promising.

Comment by Frank on January 6, 2006 @ 9:11 pm
183. Hello blogmaster:
Could I know why are my posts about Asotinc.net and Asot-pay.com not being published? Are you afraid to have any negative comments about them? Are you hand in gloves with them? Are you’ll running a scam? I have posted comments here but they have been edited. (it was no. 198) Why has the original one been removed? What’s going on? A guilty conscince pricks the mind? No guts to publish the negative posts eh?

Comment by Vegshark on January 7, 2006 @ 9:51 am
184. blimey… and now it is up again… the minute I post as new one… well… I sure am totally confused by this…. Hey blogmaster… sorry about the 199 post! I was a bit peeved off since the money is not yet in my account and neither my post here… nice to see the post back..still wondering about the money… sincere sorry again… form the bottom of my heart. Please accept it.

Comment by Vegshark on January 7, 2006 @ 9:53 am
185. Thanks Dan… and sorry again.

Comment by vegshark on January 7, 2006 @ 9:20 pm
186. Is http://www.asotinc.net for real? has any one had good experience with them? Please comment, if the reviews are good i might join!!!

Comment by heybs on January 9, 2006 @ 10:12 am
187. 205: For you: No idea if they are for real or just another scam. They claim to have been around for three years. I had some trouble sending money to Asot-Pay.com when I finally got through with them, I am still awaiting confirmation from Asotinc.net.
So even if these guys are for real, one thing is certain: Professionalism is certainly not their cup of tea! Now, I’m sure this itself raises questions about them does it not?

Comment by vegshark on January 10, 2006 @ 10:38 am
188. This is in response to
Post 199

I don’t know why the email
bounced back.

The company I said was safe and
reliable, was safe and reliable for
a few years.

Within the last three weeks apparently
they have stolen everybodys money and
dissappeared, the site is still there
but the admin is nowhere to be found.

Do not invest in fastmarket.com

Comment by Steve on January 10, 2006 @ 11:41 am
189. Hello,
Regarding Post# 170 (James). Are you saying that you have doubled to \$450,000 dollars, left it in your ASOT account and have only used \$25,000 of it? Can you leave that much money in an ASOT account?

Comment by Sylvain on January 12, 2006 @ 9:42 am
190. Well I have attempted to contact ASOTinc.net via email. The first time I got a quick response, but from there on out nothing. I even set up a new email account thinking that maybe they would respond to a different address but still nothing. Also note that I wonder if the James that is posting all this positive feedback here is James Evans if you do a who is of asotinc.net you will see James Evans is the owner of that domain. You will also see that the registered address is a trailer park lot #70. Now I’m not dissing on trailer parks but if you had this much money why would you be living in a trailer? If anybody has any positive or negative feedback on asotinc.net global-marketinginc.com or financial-freedominc.com please email me at Iowabowhunter@netzero.com

Comment by Robert on January 18, 2006 @ 4:12 pm
191. Heh. A year has passed.

You are one of the first numbers in google of ‘Double your money’.

Well, the site is down, but there are many hyips like this now. They are ponzi’s often, but at least the money are stolen not from ‘remote’ users…

Anyways. :)

Comment by ef on January 20, 2006 @ 12:57 pm
192. Has anybody ever heard of http://www.investmoneyoffshore.com I would like to know if it is safe or not.

Comment by Devan on January 21, 2006 @ 4:52 pm
193. hi to all again, if you do not, Asotinc site is http://www.asotinc.net and they have there Very own payment processor which is call Asot-Pay there iste is: http://www.asot-pay.com. ok now please note that AsotInc & Asot-pay is the same Asot-Pay is Asotinc Bank online sysytem. they Min: is \$50.00 and the Max: \$10,000. In about two years or less asot will be opening real local banks in some states. the bank will be call (The Bank James Evans) this will be open soon. Stay stoon for more info on AsotInc & Asot-Pay….

Comment by jameen on January 26, 2006 @ 9:50 am
194. I found a business that is not a scam
and is not an investment site.
There is a 25.00 one-time fee only
that is refundable.
This is a USA based business.
It is by private invite only.
Email me at matty1965@aol.com
Put Business in the subjectline and
I will send you the link to go to.
Thanks.

Comment by Steve on February 3, 2006 @ 8:58 am
195. A few years ago, I invested some money to money-page.com. I got paid what they promised in their home page. Since I was soooo excited about the program, I kept reinvesting the fund from my paypal account. I started out with \$10, then in the end, I was up to \$1000. And it did not take too long to get to that point. However, like many others, all the funds got reversed by paypal. I ended up owing paypal over \$1000. Not only that, paypal called me I was “part of the fraudlulant activities”.
You see, the scammer “money-page.com” knows that once a fund is deposited into their e-gold account from another e-gold account, nobody can take it out. That’s why they say they do not allow payments from paypal accounts. They want us to deposit from e-gold accounts only. Another point is, they knew how to steal funds out of others’ accounts(all kinds, including credit cards), and deposit that funds into our paypal accounts, and make it look like we stole the funds from them. However, they only get paid into their e-gold account from our e-gold accounts. This is a form of “Laundrying funds”. It’s because, if they know so well how to steal funds from people all over the world, they could put them into their own account. But they want to use our(innocent greedy victims) accounts. This People(money-page.com) must have access to many people’s accounts in order to proceed their business. Who can do that? I wonder if paypal or E-gold are part of the business. Because if there so many victims in the world, and they are conplaining, why can’t they do anything to prevent this from happening. Why e-gold does not check and clarify their back ground who try to open their accounts. They should be able to limit on how many accounts they can open, or, at least they should be able to track down thru their account number. I know that “mone-page.com” is an expert in hacking accounts, and an expert in how e-gold and paypal work. They might be some kind of a very top person who can control everything. Yah, words like, “If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is”, or “You learned a painful lesson” are easy to say. But, if they (pay-pal or e-gold) are not doing anything else to prevent this kind of thing from happening, I’m starting to suspect if they are part of the scam. Just like there are som honest and good police men, but there are some who use their authority to do bad things. It could well be that some body who works in paypal, or e-gold, or both together might be part of the scam. You just never know. Especially, e-gold needs to be more strict about the rules, or, at least, they should be able to listen to the victims and let them(us) claim for the reversal of the funds just like Paypal. Why won’t they do that, but why paypal can do that?? It’s strange.
It’s best not to get invlove into this types of scams from the beginning. But if e-gold does not do anything about it and let the ciminals do whatever they want, then pretty soon nobody might be able to use anytypes of internet money related accounts. And that’s going to be their loss. I almost want to file a class action law sue.

Comment by Keiko on February 10, 2006 @ 12:52 pm
196. Here’s some info:

Steve Girsky
StormPay, Inc
1690 Golf Club Lane
Clarksville, TN 37043
Telephone: (931) 647-8750
Fax: (931) 647-8970

STEVEN C GIRSKY
Clarksville, TN 37043-9007
(931) 362-9288

Stormpay Office:
(931) 647-8750 ext. 105

Girsky, Steven C (residence)
Clarksville, TN 37043-9007
(931) 362-9288

Girsky, Steven C (office)
121 S Third St
Clarksville, TN 37040-3403
(931) 647-1501

Registered Agent and President:
Name: JOHN R. MCCONNELL, JR.
Address Line 1: 1690 GOLF CLUB LANE
City: CLARKSVILLE
State: TN
Zip: 37043
Telephone: (931) 647-8750
Fax: (931) 647-8970

Tymglobal.com is Steve Girsky
By now most of us know that StormPay and NetIBA were incorporated by the SAME person. Mr. John McConnell Jr is the registered agent, the principal officer, and the customer service contact of NetIBA. This man is also the registered agent of Stormpay. Steven Girsky is the CEO and Customer Service contact for StormPay. You can see my previous post on this at http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/s…s-t425180.html.

Interestingly, these two men are also neighbors. From The State of Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury, Real Estate Assessment Data website (http://170.142.31.248/ParcelList.asp or go to http://170.142.31.248/SelectCounty.a…lectCounty=063 and type Shadowbend in the Property Address Box):

MCCONNELL JOHN R
ETUX DEBORAH K
CLARKSVILLE , TN 37043
931-362-4116 (from http://www.whitepages.com)

This is where John lives. From the data you can see he lives in a 2 story, 3,012 sq ft home he bought for \$266,000. He also owns 4981 and 4990 Shadowbend (both plots of land).

From the same site:
GIRSKY STEVEN C
ETUX CAROL L
CLARKSVILLE , TN 37043
931-362-9288 (from http://www.whitepages.com)

Steven lives in a 2 story, 3,692 sq ft home he bought for \$250,000.

According to google maps: Map Link, they live 168 ft apart; it takes about 4 seconds to get from one house to the other.

Before filing a complaint with the BBB about StormPay, one should contact Steven Girsky at:
1690 GOLF CLUB LANE
CLARKSVILLE, TN, 37043
931-647-8750; Fax 931-647-8970

If you have a complaint about NetIBA, before filing with the BBB, you should contact John Mcconnell at (931) 905-0112. If you reverse search this number at http://www.whitepages.com, you find it belongs to NetIBA at 1690 Golf Club Lane, Clarksville, TN 37043.

Who owns 1690 Golf Club Lane you ask? This 2 story, 6,068 sq ft, 30 office building is owned by John R. Mcconnell! Imagine that!

No, you’re not seeing double, NetIBA is at the same address as StormPay, in the building owned by John McConnell. The only difference is the phone number.

My question: is it legal to call a business owner at home? Of course, you are almost certain to lose your account, rather than get anything resolved so I wouldn’t recommend it! Additionally, according to the BBB, Steven Girsky is a lawyer working for Batson, Nolan, Brice, Harvey, & Williamson. However, Steven Girsky is not listed on their web page: http://www.bnbwg.com. Nor is he listed as a member of the Tennesee Bar Association. I don’t dare speculate on this and anyone else inclined to do so should cease and desist!

Looking back at the Tennesee property records, I looked up S. Third St to see who owns the building where Steven is/was a lawyer. It’s owned by BNBWG Realty. Hmm, Could those letters stand for Batson, Nolan, Brice, Williamson, & Girsky? Doing a search on google tells me I am correct. However, the BBB doesn’t have a record of this company and the address is the same address as the attorney’s office address. I guess BNBWG Realty doesn’t do much business?

Want to see a picture of Steven Girsky? http://pview.findlaw.com/view/2558419_1?noconfirm=0

Finally, according to the BBB, Stormpay has “an unsatisfactory record due to a pattern of complaints received. In the past 36 months, the company has received complaints specifically concerning the company’s failure to inform and follow up with its customers when it suspends accounts, failure to release funds in a timely manner and failure to resolve complaints directly with company management. The company has responded to each complaint presented by BBB. However, the company has not eliminated the pattern of complaint. The BBB Definition of pattern: – More than 2 complaints involving the same allegations usually within 12 months that are significant in relation to the company’s size and volume of business. YTD 2006, the company has received 8 complaints; in 2005, the company received 49 complaints; in 2004, the company received 6 complaints.

In comparison, PayPal has a satisfactory record. To see the definition of satisfactory: http://www.bbbsilicon.org/commonreport.html?bid=210387

The proof is in the pudding folks. For all practical purposes, StormPay and NetIBA are the same company. Don’t be ripped off by them!

Additionally, If you are desperate to contact StormPay or it’s owner, I believe you can find enough information here to do so. You might have to think outside the box a bit though.

All the information provided here is a matter of public record. I have provided the links where you can find the same information for yourself. Being a web researcher, I know where to look for these kinds of things.

Contact his local Newspaper:
http://theleafchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

I wrote to the newspaper this morning, using the link that was available in a Sports Story. Here is the email back I just received:

Thank you for your e-mails. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve received several e-mails and phone calls over the past three days regarding StormPay.Com. Because this is no longer a sports story, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve forwarded all e-mails and links to our business editor/writer. Our news department will take this story from here. Thank you for your e-mails.
Jimmy Trodglen
Sports editor
The Leaf-Chronicle

Contact Steve Girsky’s Racing affiliates: Warn them!
Clarksville Speedway
wiltamracing@aol.com
Office: 931-645-2523
Fax # 931-645-5171

Golden Isle Speedway
GIS@GoldenIslesSpeedway.com

Columbus MS. Speedway
johnnyas1@bellsouth.net

Cleveland Speedway
| (423) 479-8574 |
Cleveland, Tennessee

Pike County Speedway
J.F. Gasquet
504.394.5530 or 504.442.8847
info@pikecountyspeedway.com

(256) 831-1413

East Bay Raceway Park
Tampa Florida 33619
1.813.677.7223

Where is OUR Money? Might be here?

From The Leaf-Chronicle, Clarksville TN. 01-20-2006

Clarksville Speedway gains new name, new sponsorship
Deal with StormPay.com will allow track to expand,
raise cash prizes

Sponsor helps track owners continue renovation By
JIMMY TRODGLEN The Leaf-Chronicle

A natural association of two enterprises involved in
dirt track racing turned into a business alliance
Friday when StormPay.com became the primary sponsor of
Clarksville Speedway.

StormPay.com Ã¢â‚¬â€ a payment processing company for online
auctions Ã¢â‚¬â€ and the speedway agreed to a two-year deal,
Financial were not disclosed, but Steve Girsky,
CEO of StormPay.com, said sponsorship dollars will
allow the renamed Clarksville StormPay.com Speedway to
continue its expansion and renovation, while
increasing the cash awarded to race winners.

Girsky and speedway owners William and Tammy Scogins
ago. StormPay.com is the primary sponsor of the Crate
RacinÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ USA Series, which has grown from a regional
dirt racing event into a national racing series in
only one year.

StormPay.comÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s involvement in the speedway, a
clay-oval dirt track on Needmore Road, is a separate
series.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“Anything and everything we do out here will be
focused around StormPay.com,Ã¢â‚¬Â William Scogins said.
Ã¢â‚¬Å“ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a great handshake that weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve been able to find
somebody in our own town, in our community thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s
going to take interest in racing the way theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve had.Ã¢â‚¬Â

StormPay.comÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s involvement with the speedway also
includes the Friday night drag racing series and the
go-cart track.

The speedway is undergoing its most extensive
renovation since the Scoginses bought the facility
five years ago. Corporate suites and a new media tower
are under construction.

Jimmy Trodglen is sports editor and can be reached at
jimmytrodglen@theleafchronicle.com or at 245-0261.

With fast rise of Crate series, round of upgrades that
includes suites, owners envision track becoming
entertainment hub By JIMMY TRODGLEN The Leaf-Chronicle

Before StormPay.com became the primary sponsor of the
Crate RacinÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ USA Series, CEO Steve Girsky admits he
wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t much of a racing fan.

Now, he canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t watch enough racing, and the company he
helped launch four years ago has increased its impact
on the local racing scene.

StormPay.com Ã¢â‚¬â€ a payment processing company for online
auctions Ã¢â‚¬â€ became the primary sponsor of Clarksville
Speedway, the 40-year-old dirt track that launched the
career of ClarksvilleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Jeff Purvis, and is the
central track for the launch of the Crate RacinÃ¢â‚¬â„¢
Series, which has grown from a regional racing event
into a national series.

The two-year deal, with an option for an additional
two years, became official when Girsky and speedway
owners William and Tammy Scogin made the venture
officially known Friday.

With StormPay.com having its headquarters in
Clarksville, becoming the primary sponsor of the
clay-oval dirt track was an ideal fit.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“Truthfully, the sponsorship of our local track in the
hometown of our corporate headquarters was a natural
extension of our racing endeavors of what weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve
undertaken in the past year,Ã¢â‚¬Â Girsky said.

StormPay.com, which was launched in 2002, does
business in 200 countries and is expanding its
services to include e-mail accounts, Web pages, domain
registry and Web-based tools.

With this major sponsorship endeavor, the Clarksville
StormPay.com Speedway is positioned to speed up its
current expansion and renovation, while providing
bigger purses for the Crate RacinÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ USA Series.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“We havenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t ear-marked money for any particular
purpose, other than set aside monies from the
sponsorship to these purses to make them bigger,Ã¢â‚¬Â
Girsky said.

Most dirt tracks pay \$400 to their winner, but the
speedway will pay its winner \$800.

The new Clarksville StormPay.com Speedway is currently
building corporate suites Ã¢â‚¬â€ a first for a dirt track Ã¢â‚¬â€
in addition to a new media and scoring tower.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“WeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re trying to give the community a place to have
people come in, businesses come in, and have a place
to entertain their clients,Ã¢â‚¬Â Tammy said. Ã¢â‚¬Å“WeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re hoping
that these suites go well this year, and that maybe if
word gets out, that we can add another roll of them
next year.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Added Girsky: Ã¢â‚¬Å“WeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve been to several (dirt tracks)
here recently and we havenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t come across one yet that
has suites.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Last season, the speedway was the host site for 200
events Ã¢â‚¬â€ including some that werenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t race related Ã¢â‚¬â€
and averaged 1,200 in attendance with its stock car
series.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“All these corporate businesses, from mom and pa, to
2,000 people, we can entertain out here,Ã¢â‚¬Â Tammy said.
Ã¢â‚¬Å“We can give them a little place they can do something
at.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Other renovations to the track facility include
replacing the fence alongside the road in front of the
track, in addition to building a new entrance and new
signs.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“It is a good venture for both companies. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an
asset for us we know, and we hope itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an asset for
them,Ã¢â‚¬Â William said. Ã¢â‚¬Å“Tammy and I have tried to
improve the place the longer we go.Ã¢â‚¬Â

The speedway has invested \$30,000 in transponders to
assist in scoring the cars and the laps theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve run.

StormPay.com will also help drivers find corporate and
operation.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“For these guys, it costs a lot of money to race and
expand the base of the sport,Ã¢â‚¬Â Girsky said. Ã¢â‚¬Å“If we can
get sponsorship for the drivers, weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve helped another
set of fans.Ã¢â‚¬Â

StormPay.comÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s interest in auto racing was initiated
after it was approached by a Nextel Cup team looking
for sponsorship. Girsky met with Purvis, who spent
nearly 20 years racing on the ARCA, NASCAR Busch and
then-Winston Cup series, to learn what would be

It was Purvis who tipped StormPay.com, which is the
Crate engine, and its future in dirt track racing.

Motors for late model cars can cost \$40,000, but the
Crate engines cost between \$3,000 and \$5,000, and
their speeds and horsepower are similar to those of
the more costly motors.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“This whole series is the wave of the future,Ã¢â‚¬Â Girsky
said. Ã¢â‚¬Å“You can race a car and buy an engine from
\$3,000 to \$5,000 dollars, and race against
NASCAR-level competition.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Jimmy Trodglen is sports editor and can be reached by
e-mail at jimmytrodglen@theleafchronicle.com or by
phone at 245-0261.

Government Actions Against Steve Girsky:

Government Actions

On August 7, 2003, the Tennessee Securities Division of the Department of Commerce & Insurance issued an “Order to Cease and Desist” (file number 03-020) with TymGlobal, Inc., StormPay, Inc. and John R. McConnell, Jr.

The order states that TymGlobal and StormPay are under common ownership and/or control. TymGlobal operates an internet website which is registered to StormPay. On the internet website, respondents are operating a pyramid and/or Ponzi scheme promising large returns on investments for participating in the scheme. The order further states that TymGlobal has not registered any securities offerings with the Division pursuant to Tennessee Securities Act of 1980. Nor has the company registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, agent of a broker-dealer or investment adviser. Also, the respondent StormPay has not registered any securities offerings with the Division nor has the company registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, agent of a broker-dealer, or investment adviser. John R. McConnell, Jr. has not registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, an agent of a broker-dealer or as an investment adviser.

Potential investors were given the opportunity to invest in both partnership shares as TymGlobal as well as to participate in various Ponzi schemes. Respondents promised a high return. The offering of participation in the schemes sold by the respondents is an investment contract and thus, a security under the act.

The Division ordered the respondents TymGlobal, StormPay and John R. McConnell, Jr to cease and desist the conduct of a broker-dealer in the state of Tennessee until such time as it effectively registers with the Division. The order did not intend to prohibit lawful conduct of the respondents.

For additional information concerning this order, please contact Daphne Smith, Assistant Commissioner for Securities, State of Tennessee, Department of Commerce and Insurance, Suite 680, 500 James Robertson Pky, Nashville, TN 37243.

Report as of February 2, 2006

Since talking to the governorÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s office in Tennessee Stormpay has many complaints in the past about issues frozen accounts. i spoke with Becky Bradley and she has asked that you email any and all information to her about Stormpay wrong doing her email address is becky.bradley@state.tn.us apparently she wants to help get this resolve in a timely manner.

Edited to add: Stormpay is now verified/certified by completely different company that 2 days ago: Geotrust.com.

Comment by Rich on February 11, 2006 @ 10:52 am
197. I have read with great interest of how to make money without trying or working for that matter. About 30 or so years ago a small town near me there came a very greedy person who knocked on doors to say she found \$1000.00 on the sidewalk in front of their home and in good faith if they would go to their bank and withdraw \$1000.00 she would share the money with them the elderly woman must be stupid in math because she would get 500.00 of that money shared and still keep her \$1000.00 good faith money to prove her honesty ????? now hold on to your hats, the finder of the moneies gave her an enevlope saying she should hold it and not look inside, she would return to share with her if no one came forward about their lose. Now you all know the scammer never returned so finally after a few days the elderly woman opened the envelope to find cut up newspaper.

Let that be a lesson in common sense if it sounds to good to be true it really is.

Comment by karoly on February 12, 2006 @ 2:12 pm
198. I have a question for James. Are you sure this Asot Inc. company is the REAL deal?

Comment by Frankie on February 13, 2006 @ 12:48 pm
199. I just did one today with a company called icash.cc got invested \$40 and got back \$60 in 30 minutes…now they say i can do it every 30 minutes…. Thank God i stumbled on this page, i already sent the money from paypal to my bank acct… we’ll see what happens

Comment by tony on February 13, 2006 @ 2:10 pm
200. In response to 219, you posted your comment on 2/13/06 that you invested \$40, and got \$60 back in 30 minute. Did the paypal suspended your account yet? Names of the companies are didfferent, but they are same people. I posted mine under 215, please read it. I hope you are out of that program before you get into to too much debt. They will get you.

Comment by Keiko on February 22, 2006 @ 12:36 pm
201. Tony; Are you for real? After reading all of these posts, you would actually invest in a known scam. You’ll regret it, trust me, I know.

Comment by Jason on February 22, 2006 @ 2:48 pm
202. So there isn’t any online invest site we can really trust, is there????

Comment by Isa on March 18, 2006 @ 1:05 pm
203. I tried the icash.cc and within a few days, I received a message from Paypal stating that there had been some questioned activity and that were holding the funds transferred, a few days later the fund were given back to the sender who said someone had brok into his account and sent me money unauthorized. icash.cc is a sam, I did it first hand and lost several hundred dollars.

Comment by Ryan on March 23, 2006 @ 2:36 pm
204. Hey guys, I just came across this site and I was a victim from these scammers too, when they used to be called Qmoney.cc. It is the same people and I almost lost \$600 from them. I wanted to tell you guys what I did to not lose any of my money to Paypal. I did not read all of the messages above and I apologize if someone has already mentioned this. Now, I am not saying this will work for you but it has worked for me. For those of you that withdrew the money and was left with a negative balance like I was then please read…
Paypal kept sending me emails about how I owed them money and I just ignored them.
Soon, they had NCO collection company calling me to inform me that it had gone over to collections and that I needed to pay them right away. I had also recieved a letter from them stating the same thing and that I had to pay.. it gave me a option to either pay or send a dispute letter within 30 days of recieving that letter.
So, I called them that day and let them know that I was going to write a dispute letter. They didn’t seem too happy. I didn’t care.
I wrote a dispute letter, sent it CERTIFIED MAIL (costed me a few dollars) stating that I am not responsible for Paypal not being able to verify their users and their insecurity of their website. I also stated that nothing should be on my credit report until this is settled and that they needed to PROVE that I actually owed this money to them. I did send them a copy of my EGOLD History page showing that I did send money to those scammers and also a copy of Qmoney that I saved on my comp. to show that I was really investing my money and that money in my Paypal account is actually mine. I couldn’t get a copy of my Paypal History due to the fact that they had closed my account so I told NCO to obtain one from them since they have a right to. I tried calling Paypal just to see if I can get a copy of my history and they refused! bastards.. after explaining everything and that its for my dispute letter, they had the nerves to ask me that if I pay them the amount that I owed, I can then get that copy. hahaha.. I laughed and hung up on them.
So anyways, its been almost about a year now and I haven’t heard anything back. NO phone calls, no letter, nothing on my credit report. So, I hope this will help somebody… If you need help or have a question about this you can email me at baybecakes68@yahoo.com or write on this post as I will be checking it periodically.
Have a nice day!

Comment by KiM on March 30, 2006 @ 10:49 am
205. DON`T invest on ICash.cc!!! You get your money into your PayPal account, but then the difficults begins! PayPal frozed your account and send the money back to sender!!
DON`T INVEST ON ICASH.CC

Comment by Kemp on April 6, 2006 @ 1:49 am
206. KiM (Post #224). You’re not out of the woods yet. I posted early in this blog, which started with my first post #22 January of 2005. One year later the FBI rang me and wanted me at their office to explain what happened. I had documented everything and submitted a complaint to the Internet Fraud Complaint Center of the FBI http://www.ic3.gov. The complaint (which I had a copy of) and my documents got me off the hook. I was a victim, but paid PayPal everything back. I hate PayPal and it doesn’t seem they care that this scam still continues. There are serious security flaws within PayPal and I’d be warry if they have your bank account information etc.

Comment by Jason on May 4, 2006 @ 2:56 pm
207. Come…is asotinc.net really 4 real?I mean someone(james on #160) claims making \$450,000….for God sake,when do we get good people with real and good intentions?

Comment by morgan on May 9, 2006 @ 6:38 am
208. James,are there any limits to the amount of money you can double with asotinc.net?As at this moment,does the 25% service fee still apply?Why has the minimum rate of entry been reduced to \$5 from \$50?Why do they keep editing their site…what,what,WHAT?why must you now have to open accounts with the two payment processors they have available?

Comment by morgan on May 9, 2006 @ 8:50 am
209. Ok, Well I’m assuming I’ve been suckered also.

I invested about 180bucks, so far 119 has been “held”

I will be contacting paypal to notify them of this.

Don’t to it, that’s all I can say about that.

Comment by Anonymous on May 25, 2006 @ 12:03 am
210. I have just invested in http://www.bucks-internet.com for 145bucks. Is this website scam too?

Comment by mike on May 29, 2006 @ 7:41 pm
211. Hello
for Mike, who post 230.
DON`T invest there!!! ItÂ´s the same site as ICash.cc.
Of course, I think you will get your money doubble back into your PayPal account, but then….You will get a lot of big problems with PayPal! For all!! DON`T INVEST on sites where you must invest via e-gold and get the profit into your PayPal account!! DON`T INVEST THERE!!!
If you have more questions, feel free to send an email
Kempodo@operamail.com

Comment by Kemp on June 1, 2006 @ 1:06 am
212. Okay, like many others, I’m late… my e-gold is sent and the 150% was sent to me then I withdrew it… what can we do at THIS MOMENT? Are there any things we can do BEFORE they reverse the money or before paypal ask for the money? I don’t know, like to close accounts, change something, etc?

Thanks

Comment by f0rgiat0 on June 8, 2006 @ 6:01 pm
213. I can’t believe we all fell into this crap… but they’ll have to kill me to get it back as I actually don’t owe them this money. Seriously, look at the number of victims we are and this problem has been around for a too long time now, paypal know what’s going on and if they can’t do nothing against the problem, how could they go against us? If it’s out of their control, so we are. If we all ignore them as we should and don’t pay back, they’ll get in big trouble so that’s just what I’ll do.

Comment by f0rgiat0 on June 9, 2006 @ 8:22 pm
214. How about a class action suit against paypal for allowing this to happen?

Comment by Steve on June 25, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
215. Pleeeeeeeeeeeease!Does anyone have anything to say OR any news about asotinc.net?The last time I heard anything “bout them,it was that they were doubling for sure but no withdrawals,as at that time.Now,they have removed the chat forum/page off their website(but then…their site is still up…what for?)Can someone please tell me the latest thats happening with asotinc…..Pleeeease!!!

Comment by morgan on June 26, 2006 @ 5:44 am
216. Claas Action suit would be great against Paypal. Iive posted numerous times in this forum since January 2006. I was scammed for 3K and had to pay it all back to Paypal. I lost a lot of money quick! The FBI visited me one year later investigating on Paypals behalf. I had everything documented and documentation that I paid Paypal everything back. The FBI accused me that I stole from Paypal, which was total BS and I had documentation of paying them back and also filed a complaint with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center of the FBI. Paypal had frozen my account, so I had no way to show the FBI I had paid this back “except” I had saved paper documentation for over a year and kept this whole incident in a file (just in case). I suggest you all do the same to save your ass. Don’t think it will go away. It seems the FBI is on Paypals side. This has been going on for years and Paypal still hasn’t fixed the hacker issues they have. Total BS and I hate Paypal.

Comment by Jason on July 11, 2006 @ 1:13 pm
217. I recently joined asotinc.net and have doubled twice.However I have not made a withdrawal. Will be doing so in August. If you can wait that long Morgan,i’ll let you know.
So far i’m impressed by them.

Comment by Darren on July 11, 2006 @ 3:40 pm
218. Hello,

My paypal account access has been limited because of the transaction from http://www.live-cash.com I invested a lot of money with them. The first 8 transactions were fine. However, when the money got bigger, my transactions were reversed back to the sender. The total will be about \$4300 USD. Does anyone know is there a way I can get the money back? Or I will never be able to get anything back. That’s all the money I have! We have no way to help this kind of things happened? I am sorry that I did not read all posts before If you know what I can do, please help me!! Please!!

Comment by denny on July 11, 2006 @ 11:28 pm
219. Post # 237.
Stay away from there it is a scam!

Comment by SCAM on July 12, 2006 @ 10:34 am
220. Hi guys…just read above and I find this page very valuable. We should keep sharing experiences and advices. I am new in this, recently opened avcccount in e-gold and thinking how and where to work with money.Recentlly opened account in http://simple-fund.net/. If anyone has any experience with these guys I would appreaciate it if posted. Thnx….cheers!:)

Comment by Anonymous on July 13, 2006 @ 8:04 pm
221. Hi, Nice article but this, what I will share with you probably will be of your console; I lost more than TWO THOUSANDS US DOLLARS IN THIS FAKE BUSINESS.
This people took from “Gullible Persons like me” several millions, I guess.
I am an old man more than 75 years on me, but this people did clean my pockets.
Peter

Comment by Peter on July 15, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
222. Jason, does the FBI took your PC for the investigation or they just contacted/visited you? I have all the history of this sh– too, I’m just waiting for them to come.

Comment by f0rgiat0 on July 16, 2006 @ 12:40 am
223. Post #239
How long ago did you join asotinc.net?How are you rest assured that withdrawals will commence by august?if you’re having just the doubling,dont you think the main essence of getting in,in the first place,was to be able to get hold of your withdrawals?Any reason why their chat page is out?Could you give a comprehensive overview of what they are up to at the moment?Thanks..

Comment by morgan on July 17, 2006 @ 1:48 am
224. hi,
love ur forum and i need money,i have an e-gold acct but no money in it,how or which website can i join to make money so that they can pay to my e-gold acct?
thanks and waiting for ur reply

Comment by tony on July 26, 2006 @ 5:23 am
225. I started out with 50 buck on ASOTINC and so for I have 400buck in my account.I recently did a transfer to make sure that this was legit and was able to get 100buck no hassle.I don’t know why their chat room is down Morgan. So far I have no complaints but will keep everyone informed as the weeks progress. If anything crooked happens I will let you know.

Comment by Darren on July 29, 2006 @ 4:31 pm
226. Post #244. No, the FBI did not take my computer, but I did have proof I paid Paypal and a complaint file with the FBI. I was innocent and simply a gullible person hoping to make some easy cash. I lost over 3K, but I’m not in jail and that’s all that matters to me. People, Don’t get suckered into this scam! If it looks to good to be true, then it most likely is! The worst part is your getting involved in something illegal! Don’t do it.

Comment by Jason on August 1, 2006 @ 9:00 am

Comment by Cristian on August 1, 2006 @ 6:40 pm
228. hi. been reading the posts. very interesting. have you all thought about doing something together? you all seem to want to make money, why dont you pool your capital together. i did a similar thing a while back when i put my money together with 9 other people and invested in stocks. on my own my funds didnt amount to much but together we had a certain buying power. people took us much more seriously and we all made something extra. i wont say its risk free or will gain instant results, and you have to trust the person who looks after your investment, but its legal and a lot less riskier than the rip off merchants cited here. just a thought.

Comment by moby on August 2, 2006 @ 7:00 pm
229. Anyone with any successfull withdrawals with asotinc.net?They seem to be quiet,yet,they probably are working….one or two folks claim they have made successfull withdrawals…Darren,any news from your side?

Comment by morgan on August 10, 2006 @ 11:20 pm
230. has anyone gotten paid yet? asot inc.

Comment by bryan on August 26, 2006 @ 11:32 pm
231. Thanks for all the posts folks. So sorry to hear that so many of you lost money dealing with these SOB’s. But thank you for the head-up on these guys. Maybe the FBI will get off their lazy duffs and really go do their job of busting these people instead of harrassing folks just trying to make some money. PayPal and e-gold really need to get their house in order. This type of stuff couldn’t be perpetrated if these companies didn’t have holes in their system for criminals to exploit.

Good luck out there.

W

Comment by W on September 2, 2006 @ 11:17 pm
232. I just got this email 3 hours ago,I asked them if ther were still in business on the 31st of august.
the response is below, tell me what to think of it guys!

ASOT Inc. to me
More options Sep 3 (15 hours ago)

Yes we are.

Thanks,
ASOT, Inc. Services Team
http://www.asotinc.net
“DOUBLE YOUR MONEY EVERY 7 DAYS”
—– Original Message —–
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:37 PM

> Hello,
>
> A member of ASOT, needs our assistance.
>
> The details are below……….
> Email: bbuksoontorn@gmail.com
> Issue: are you guys still up and running and paying out?
>
>

Comment by bryan on September 4, 2006 @ 5:07 am
233. Let’s shut paypal down.

Comment by f0rgiat0 on September 8, 2006 @ 4:08 am
234. I finally put in a request for \$1200.00 from ASOTINC.Everything went fine all the way to ASOT-PAY which is the site that disperses the funds.Well my friends it has been 1 week and 2 days since ASOT-PAY asked me to wait 24hrs before I get a western union notification to go collect my money.I have checked with w.union and nada. This has been very disturbing to me. I have 5 spends doubling weekly, one of which matures to \$16,000.00 next week. Now tell me if they can’t pay me \$1200.00 then am I to be hopeful.I have since hooked up with another ASOT client who tells me he has several withdrawals pending.
I hate dishonesty!!!!

Comment by Darren on September 9, 2006 @ 5:53 am
235. Hi Darren and others who invested in ASOT,INC. It’s been about a month since the last post so I’m just wondering if anything new has happened. It’s been quite a long time between when ASOTINC was first mentioned and now (Oct. ’06). That either means they’re about to disappear really soon, or else they’re legit and have lasted because of that.

I certainly would never invest in 99% of what has been discussed on this page, but some of what was said about ASOTINC looked to be different than the double-in-30-minutes/60-minutes scams. So, here’s my questions:

1: If I were to invest a small amount in ASOTINC and let it double, double again, and so on, and then withdrew it….. would it get reversed/charged back eventually and be stolen money? Or would it actually be okay to withdraw it?

2: If I were to withdraw small amounts of money at a time (say, \$500), is it more likely that I would actually receive it? Maybe they just don’t want to pay out if your account is up to substantial amounts like Darren’s \$1,200 or \$16k?

I mean…. I suspect that they’re going to eventually go away with the money like so many others already have. But maybe I could at least get *something*? I don’t want to even consider it if the money’s been stolen, though.

Because of the fact that people seem to be jumping from one topic to another in this post, I can’t tell if people are saying ASOTINC is a scam or if they’re talking about the original topic – “dblcash” and all of their many many aliases.

Comment by May on October 5, 2006 @ 5:56 pm
236. Well, it looks like i have lost a small fortune dealing with FAST-INTERNET-CASH.COM!! What riles me so much is that i was confident in investing & dealing via PAYPAL!! What a sham!! When the “holds” started, these ugly scammers brazenly told me that this was a routine operation performed by Paypal on new accts.!! I was assured by Fast-internet-cash that ‘they”would then repay me!!! I went along, hoping this would all sort itself out!! Paypal never explained anything or gave a satisfactory reason for these decisions, i was actually put on hold for 20 minutes,then cut off!! I think they may be in on this joke!! I would never have invested a nickel with these criminals had it not been for the so-called “trust’ & security”of Paypal!!! E-gold is the wild west, i had trouble just finding a broker to cash fund my acct.!!! I’ll spare you the dire & depressing details of this debacle, & plead with anyone here to share info. on a serious, dependible HYIP program?? Also ,is my {depleted} bank acct. & credit card used in funding my Paypal acct. at risk from the s.o.b. fraudsters? Weaving a tangled web indeed!! Any info. would help..Thank you..

Comment by AXXELL: on October 16, 2006 @ 6:32 am
237. Excuse me for ranting, but does’nt Paypal understand or care about the harm it is doing to itself & the customers by, in effect endorsing these cheap hustlers?? As far as my integrity goes, all they have to do is check my sterling E-bay rating!! Stupid & clueless!! They never bothered to phone or e-mail me to consult my side of things!! I feel sullied by this whole mess!! Small time nonsense that should have been nicked in the bud by both ends!! Awful!!

Comment by AXXELL: on October 16, 2006 @ 6:51 am
238. Dang, I was really hoping that some one would say if ASOTINC was a fraud or not. It really looked good, but if they’re holding money then I guess they are a scam. Its been awhile since the Masterblog requested his doubled over cash. It looked as though they did have some trouble a while back, but it sounded like they now had it together. Apprently James, was the owner James Evans huh? What a shame. How is it our government can’t do anything about sites like this and companies like Paypal? Can anyone say kickback? bribes? hush money?

Comment by William on October 18, 2006 @ 1:31 pm
239. amen.

Comment by f0rgiat0 on October 19, 2006 @ 5:05 am
240. Unfortunately for me I joined ASOT-PAY sent them a check value \$500 plus \$29. Have repeatedly asked them for a refund and nothing. Does anyone know where they are located.
Thank you,
Maureen Rawlings

Comment by maureen rawlings on October 25, 2006 @ 1:32 pm
241. Sorry to hear that Maureen. I believe I saw something about Ga. not sure what city.

Comment by William on October 25, 2006 @ 9:34 pm
242. Hello
Anyone who uses PAYPAL should take a look at this:
http://paypalsucks.com/

Comment by K66 on October 26, 2006 @ 8:07 am
243. I been using a hyip monitor that shows you deposits weekly from there egold account. They seem to be ontop of things.

http://www.ultimatehyip.net

Chuck

Comment by Chuck on October 26, 2006 @ 11:19 am
244. I think i know how this works…. you send DBLCASH your deposit, say 1 dollar… they keep that dollar in their real account, they send you 2 dollars from a different STOLEN account. You send them back 2 dollars to their real paypal account, they send you 4 dollars from stolen account, you send them 4 dollars back to their real account., hey send you 8 from a stolen account, you send them back the 8… So all funds from you are legitimately authorized from a real, non stolen account, you sent them 1+2+4+8…. they sent you 2+4+8 from stolen accounts, so you will be reversed 14 bucks and they made 15 bucks…basically they steal the account, and use you as a middleman to get the stolen funds to them. SICK and disgusting scam but clever

Comment by will on November 8, 2006 @ 7:02 pm
245. ASOTINC is a fraud. Please people run fast.Profits from deposit small or large will not never be paid.I am part of a yahoo forum with ASOT members and every single one of them have not received a cent. Keep away…don’t say I did not warn you!!

Comment by Darren on November 28, 2006 @ 8:08 pm
246. please send information in deatail on my mail-ID

Comment by pramod on December 5, 2006 @ 9:24 am
247. To Maureen and anyone ripped off by ASOT Inc:

Contact Sgt. Newborn in the Douglasville, GA sheriff’s office.

770-920-4912

They are investigating. If they get enough complaints, they will make sure the DA prosecutes.

Major players:

James Evans (Jr.)
Krista West Airrington (also aka Christa Holsey)
Natasha Simmons
Larr Arnold

Located formerly at:

ASOT Inc.
James Evans ()
+1.678-574-2969
Fax: +1.
Lithia Springs, GA 30122
US

*Have heard that they moved the trailer (that was their mailing address) some time ago. The sites for ASOT and ASOT Pay are down.

contact the Police and the DA in Douglasville, GA and they will help you.

We need to make sure these people are prosecuted!

Comment by Sharon on January 7, 2007 @ 12:37 pm
248. um…came across this page searching for info on egold. Unfortunitly, this is what I find, a bunch of ***es falling for a classic Ponzi scheme. All of you who participated and, in turn, were rendered a return were done so at the expense of another individual. The only winner is the idiot who was, nevertheless, smart enough to trick you. You are all inept and have learned nothing from a long discourse of financial scams.

Summarily, I can not believe you are all this stupid; nor ever be convinced otherwise that anyone of our present day would ever fall for such a scheme. fishing for morons!!! Never before reading this would I have previously believed such idiocy runs so rampant in a postmodern society.

Comment by To all: on January 10, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
249. Hey Guys, I’m not sure if this sight is related, in fact I’m not even sure what it’s purpose is. Something to do with complaints about health or growing taller scams if they exist?? anybody else ever used or heard. Wenzle

Comment by Wenzle Inman on January 24, 2007 @ 9:50 am
250. Just a thought, not an accusation. I have a hunch that the person who posted comments 3 and 9, both starting with “Hello”, is one of the people from the other side. First of all. check out the grammar, very similar to the type of grammar in a lot of those, Nigerian fraud e-mails. They never speak in plurals or pass tense. (Read his comments again closely.) And he is only stating that he has no issues with the site. I believe, he is just monitoring your site and infiltrating it, for leverage.

Comment by Not Gullible on February 19, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
251. Anyone knows something about bucks-internet.com ? I know this is a scam but I wonder if any legal actions are taken against them?

Comment by f0rgiat0 on April 25, 2007 @ 12:31 am
252. Does anybody know if hyip really works? and which one is honest and trust worthy. Please respond Thank you..Jason.

Comment by Jason on July 17, 2007 @ 8:30 am
253. Now there’s a lot of shift eyes, worried people and money hungry humans in this world. They maybe got infected by media. These lower people/humans don’t know how to think or move so they get infected by who ever they trust will make there life easiest (laziest). Iâ€™m sire life has much more to it. Iâ€™m just a young boy that has seen more we have the power, I have seen from all the above that we all can make a difference. Thatâ€™s why I choose to write this… I want to express my feelings; in return I want to listen to yours. The world as a team, would benefit anything and everything. What would you rather to fall by your self or be held up by another. Showing each other that we can work as a team starts somewhere. Letâ€™s experience life as one whole awesome group. Not dwell in ones mind not knowing what is going on now! Just being some creeps trying to gain \$ for a negative use. How do we now these scammers aren’t giving the profit to dieing children. I think we should share our energy with each other to gain larger knowledge and understanding. Help your self. Live life in the only moment NOW because thatâ€™s the only time we can make a difference, Iâ€™m sure we can work something out. Something that will get rid of the \$ factor and we can all settle down, not have to worried! Bills, food, children ect do I have money to support these thing. Stop that chatter in your mind. Get it chattering about fixing the money problem. All in all letâ€™s team up and make a happy environment for our selfâ€™s, lets go forward in knowledge not stay in the stone age. Iâ€™ll start with asotinc.net is it for real or not, scam or legit?

Comment by Superfox on October 6, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
254. Hello, everybody first of all I would like to say that if anyone has received money from this company dblcash send the money that you received back to the sender because once it gets reported to paypal that it was a fraudulant transaction your account will be limited and even suspended. Another site like the one mentioned is called l-cash.com.

Comment by Solomon Alexander on October 12, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
255. After going through this whole blog I still have found nothing on a truely honest investment site. Can someone help me here?

Comment by Mark on January 20, 2008 @ 3:07 pm
256. RE: Post 279

I suggest investing in Penny Stocks. You can lose or make money, but it is legal and legitimate. Quit wasting your time with these Scams!

This is a great place to start. You can read different forums and what others are saying before investing one penny.

Good Luck!
JR

Comment by JR on February 25, 2008 @ 8:53 am
257. I sent in \$50. I received money in my paypal account but then it was taken away because they said it was fraudulently taken from another paypal account so they refunded his money that was taken. So I of course had my \$50 stolen from me. Wish I would have ran across this site sooner but I had done this about 1 1/2 years ago.

Comment by Carla on April 4, 2008 @ 4:55 am
258. Dont call them idiots, if you were about to throw your money into this and couldnt figure how it could be a scam then youre the idiot.

Comment by Jack on May 3, 2008 @ 6:24 pm
259. im in terested . from india how can i join this .

Comment by VISHAL on February 14, 2009 @ 8:06 am
260. how can join

Comment by VISHAL on February 14, 2009 @ 8:07 am
261. how can i jion you to double money in 60 minutes replay soon

Comment by Syed Makki on April 10, 2009 @ 11:30 am
262. CAN IT REALLY WORKS

Comment by zaidoo on June 8, 2009 @ 8:37 am
263. hey, i want to know if the legitimate online jobs link(first one) at the top really works. i need money for college next year and its hard to find jobs ANYWHERE now

Comment by Kevin on August 19, 2009 @ 11:46 am

Comment by Ramesh on October 6, 2009 @ 11:47 pm
265. only if it works really mail me the details of work

Comment by sapna on November 6, 2009 @ 2:18 am
266. I ran across your blog and now I can see how people get ripped off. Do you know anything about this guy? http://www.easycorporatemoney.com/bk.html

Comment by mitchell on November 8, 2009 @ 10:21 pm
267. NICE BLOG.
YES, I WANT TO MAKE MONEY. NO, I DO NOT WISH ANYTHING OTHER THAN PROPER. YES, I CAN WORK OUT A SYSTEM FOR ALL TO BENEFIT. NO, I’M NOT INTERESTED IN “EASY” BUCKS. YES, I CAN CREATE A SYSTEM FOR ALL TO BENEFIT (provided there are enough ‘seeds’ in the hopper)NO, I’M NOT INTERESTED IN 2MM \$5 bills. YES, ENOUGH ‘PLAYERS’ WITH DECENT INVESTMENTS WILL BENEFIT. NO, I’M NOT INTERESTED I GET R4ICH QUICK SCHEMES. YES, SLOWLY -BUT SURELY COMPOUND BY WAY OF GROWTH BUSINESS.
NO, I HAVE NO HIDDEN AGENDAS. YES, I’LL START FROM SCRATCH. NO, I DON’T CARE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. YES, LEGITIMATE GROWTH ORIENTED AND NECESSARY TO THE WHERE-WITH-ALL OF TYPICAL SERVICE BUSINESS.

ALL OF THE ABOVE, BUT……
I’M TRULY FOCUSED ON WHAT I CALL A BIGFOOT. i.e. A BIG TIME INVESTOR (or three or ten) WHOSE CREDIT CAN SUSTAIN LEVERAGED BUSINESS.

NO, THIS IS NOT A JOKE.
YES, I DID SAY LEVERAGE. (i.e. protect and grow the principle – 1st maxim)

Comment by s.lee on January 17, 2010 @ 8:15 pm
268. sorry, at 61 I sometimes forget to quantify responses as I do not wish to perform with a secretary until I am ready.

NO, I DID NOT CHECK FOR TYPOS.
YES, IT WILL TAKE TIME.
NO, NOT FOREVER
YES, I BELIEVE IN COMMUNICATION (E-BLAST)
NO, I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR INPUT UNLESS IT GROWS THE CENTER.
YES, I WILL PROTECT INTRODUCTEES.
NO, I’M STRICTLY INTERESTED IN A ‘BIGFOOT’ (or two or ten/less than a bunch)
YES, POOLS ARE OK.
NO, I’M NOT NIGERIAN, I’M FROM TEXAS AND WE HANG SUM-BITCHES LIKE DAT.
TA TA

Comment by s.lee on January 17, 2010 @ 8:24 pm
269. How Can i double my money

Comment by Syed Makki on April 1, 2010 @ 4:36 am
270. You’re all idiots – if you took all the time that you spend looking for ‘get rich quick’ schemes, halved it and went to work like everyone else then you’d have some money. I own my own business and make approximately \$200,000 per year. Why? Because I got off my ass and worked for it. People like you make me sick and I’m glad you’re falling for these scams and losing money because it serves you right for being greedy!

Comment by Gary on September 17, 2010 @ 2:50 am
271. Gary, you are a judgmental bastard. You haven’t walked in the shoes of the people on here. Many of them are working like crazy and are getting nowhere. They are just trying to find a legitimate way to make their money work for them. That is not greed, it’s a valid financial principle.

Comment by Nick on October 19, 2010 @ 10:34 pm
272. I have found a way to beat the scammers!

2. Double up until you get your desired ammount
3. Immediately buy the most expensive thing you can on ebay
4. Close all accounts
5. Leave Country with your expensive thing
6. Bob is now your mothers’ brother.
:)

Comment by Terrence Feckwitt on November 3, 2010 @ 8:24 am
273. Hi all my name is ABDULLAh and i m from Pakistan. I think you all people know that Pakistan is a disturb country now. so i want to do any Online job or make money via Internet etc etc.. because in Pakistan there are no jobs no business opportunity and no future of studies that’s the major point our people migrate to USA,Europe and UK. So any kind person giude me to earn money via Internet or any double money system in very low Investment???
You can mail me at abdullah7243@gmail.com

Comment by Abdullah on November 20, 2010 @ 6:13 am
274. I’m lost on that site I don’t see the risk off losing a dollar so I’m willing to try it cause I really really need it somebody help me start

Comment by Donnell Jenkins on February 28, 2011 @ 8:22 pm
275. Hey guys,
I tried this PTC (Paid to click) website called http://www.db-bux.com/ and I got up past \$200 which was the payout minimum and it has been pending for over 2 months now… I HIGHLY suggest not using this website.
The only way to get some well earned money is these PTC websites. You can tell if they are a scam if they some crazy amount of money like \$1 a click. If you find any LEGIT websites, can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me know? contact me at forthelust@gmail.com Thank you guys so much!
<3/ Kenzie

Comment by Kenzie on March 9, 2011 @ 10:04 pm
276. to All, it is very possible to double your money, I do it all the time.
The problem is trying to double your double. let me make this simple, I have bought as one example, a wholesale piece of jewelry, it cost me Two dollars, I was able to sell it for \$20, that is way more then double my \$2. I could do that all day long. If I tried the same thing with \$20, it would be very hard to turn \$20 into \$2000 for the same type of item, but \$2 into \$20 is a piece of cake. my plan is simple, BUY IT, TAG IT, SELL IT.
most people don’t think in these terms. Would you pay 25 cents for a pencil? sure most people would. But if I offered you 1000 pencils for \$100 would you buy them? probably not cause most people have no use for 1000 pencils even though the cost is now only 10 cents, when before you would pay 25 cents. BUT if I was the guy who bought the 1000 pencils and had a way to sell them to you at 25 cents I would turn my \$100 investment into \$2500, not bad for a days work, providing of course that I sell them in one day. which brings to the second part of plan, FIND A NEED and FILL IT. Find out what people NEED one or two of, buy 1000 of them cheap, make it up 200% and sell them for a giant profit. just like the 10 cents pencil sell for 25 cents. That is more then double your money. As a final note, THIS WORKS but you cant expect to sell 1000 pencils and then sell 2000, 4000, 8000, 16000 etc, There is Supply and DEMAND to think about, keep finding the needs, find a way to buy cheap and sell high, move on to the next need. simple!

Comment by jack on March 17, 2011 @ 1:28 pm
277. Very interesting posts. Ive seen a few posts asking the question on whom you can go to to invest some money? Letâ€™s support companies which do what they say……..only problem is who to trust? Any trust worthy companies?

Comment by Andrew on April 27, 2011 @ 11:56 am
278. LOL,nice post

Comment by aj on July 1, 2011 @ 4:03 pm
279. Hi guys,, I just came across this site and like many here i tried lots of of these double your money programs etc and joined quite lot of Network marketing companies and it’s been really difficult making any real money and not to mention all the scams out there. However i want to take this opportunity to let you know that have now come across such an amazing company that YES dobles your money een with a low input of \$10 or \$40!!!

This company i’m talking about is 100% legit!! how do i know, Well i have done my due diligence and nowhere on the net have i come across any negative comments or that no one has not been piad. I know personally a few people local to me who have been paid. One guy put in 10k 6 months ago and now hes earned 80k!!! Yes it sounds too good to be true right ? well believe me it’s the real deal!!! This is probably the Best company i have come across and when you see it you will understand why. You want to know more please contact me and i will even give you my phone number and send you the url so you can check it out for yourself and make up your own mind. i will also give you details of webinars and people u can speak to all for free.

my email is aarunn19@gmail.com

Aarun

Comment by Aarun on September 30, 2011 @ 5:12 pm
280. No! There’s NO sure way to double your money in a day or a week or even a month or a year! You have to work to make money. Simple as that!

If there was a simple way everybody would be doing it and money would be worth nothing!

Think people – don’t dream!

Comment by Bo on September 30, 2011 @ 8:06 pm
281. @Aarun 308 – Yeah right!

So why don’t you just post the name of your miracle site here direct?!

Go somewhere else to promote your looser scam!

Comment by Bo on September 30, 2011 @ 8:15 pm
282. I THINK WE CAN SCAM THE SCAMMER ITSELF…!!!
HEHEH…!!!
TRY THIS:- WHEN YOUR MONEY IS DOUBLED AND TRANSFERRED TO YOUR PAYPAL. TRANSFER THE MONEY IMMEDIATELY TO ALERTPAY OR SOMETHING. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. ???

Comment by sathyen on November 7, 2011 @ 4:15 am
283. AND AARUN IF U WERE THE LUCKY 1. YOU FIRST OF ALL WOULDN’T HAVE COME ACROSS THIS PAGE OVER THE NET.
DREAM ON. DREAM ON.

Comment by sathyen on November 7, 2011 @ 4:19 am
284. HOW CAN I PAY MONEY AND HOW CAN I ENTER .PLEASE HELP( I HAVE ONLY INDIAN MONEY INR HOW I GET DOUBLE MY MONEY..

Comment by THIRUMARAN on July 16, 2012 @ 7:57 pm
285. how to join in this money duble reply me

Comment by rahul on July 20, 2012 @ 1:36 am
286. plz reply me fast & how can i pay the money

Comment by rahul on July 22, 2012 @ 9:55 pm
287. hi is there any way of doubling your money, i am looking for a way to invest my money some way can anyone help??

Comment by Jamie on August 4, 2012 @ 9:45 am
288. this is a scam plz dont belive this i gave my email id & password now i cant open my mail id because password is changed.

Comment by rahul on August 6, 2012 @ 12:32 am
289. If you think you will get your money doubled from a website that claims to double your money with no strings attached or detailed explanation you sir are a moron and deserve to have your money taken. A fool and his money are soon parted. Only ways to double your money quickly that can be vouched for is through gambling, the lottery, investing *long term* <—–, selling of ones land in todays market you are lucky if you break even on a big sale. Also high value stock trades which pretty much can be on the same level as gambling if not worse and finally working a 9-5. Which isn't that quick.

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Comment by Vinay on October 5, 2012 @ 12:25 am
292. I WANT TO START A JUNK BOND COMPANY. tHE PROBLEM IS I DONT KOW HOW. tHIS COMPNAY WOULS ALLOW PEOPLE TO DOUBLE THEIR FUNDS BY ME INVESTIN THEIR MONEY. HENCE, IT WOULD NOT BE A SCAM BUT IT WOULD BE A CHANCE YOU DONT GET MONEY BACK….

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