Wednesday - March 09, 2005
Brother MFC-420CN

Brother MFC-420CN

We just bought a Brother MFC-420CN multi-function printer and although I haven’t used it much, I’m already pleased with it. The reason I chose it is because of the network port and the price (less than $150). In addition to being a printer, it’s a copy machine, a fax machine, a scanner and it can even print from digital media cards (like those you use in digital cameras).

I love having a copy machine handy in the house, so that alone is nice, but having the printer on the network means we can print to it from any computer without having to set up a print server on one of them. It’s also nice to have a scanner in case we have any pictures we want to digitize. It even comes with OCR software for Windows so you can scan in documents and turn them into text.

It came with drivers for Windows on a CD but after getting it I realized I hadn’t checked for Linux support. Fortunately, I was pleasantly surprised. My machine is using CUPS and it was pretty easy to get it to work. In the end, it only took the following two steps:

1. Install the LPR driver and the CUPS wrapper driver RPMs for your printer and OS combination.

2. Follow the instructions for adding your printer in CUPS.

It’s not the fastest machine in the west, but it’s adequate for our needs. Printing speed is 20ppm black & white and 15ppm color. Copying speed is 17cpm black & white and 11cpm color.

It’s very compact, taking up less space than our old HP DeskJet 600C and new print cartridges only cost $6.95 for black and $5.95 for color at PrintPal. The print quality is quite satisfactory in my opinion and so far I don’t really have any complaints.

Update: I got some ink at PrintPal but the quality of the printing began to suffer, and I began to wonder if the printer was on its way out. Then my wife got some ink at 4inkjets - Brother and there was a huge difference in print quality. The black and color cartridges are only $4.99, but we liked them so much we decided to stock up and got the bulk set of 10 Ink Cartridges: 4 Black & 2 each of Yellow / Cyan / Magenta for $39.99 and have been very pleased. Plus, the bulk price comes out to $3.99 per ink cartridge, which is hard to beat.

Here’s a handy tool to find cheap ink for other printers.







  1. Thanks! As you may remember, I’ve been considering something like this. My concerns were: speed (which now seems fine), quality (which seems fine), and noise. How noisy is it? This isn’t a huge deal, but I’m curious.

      » Comment by Cameron on March 9, 2005 @ 2:08 pm
  2. I haven’t noticed, which probably means it’s not that loud. It’s not whisper quiet either, but I think it’s about average.

      » Comment by dan on March 9, 2005 @ 2:50 pm
  3. Thanks, Dan. I’ve been thinking about getting a new printer for the house and you mentioned two features that I’ll be looking for - network capability, and fax. Not to mention the price. One question though. Carla prints alot of her own customer greeting cards (birthday, etc…). Aside from printing normal letter type jobs, how do you think it would perform in that capacity?

      » Comment by jason on March 10, 2005 @ 8:28 am
  4. Jason: I’ll bring in an example of its work, in color, to let you make that decision. I think the quality is perfectly adequate for greeting cards.

      » Comment by dan on March 10, 2005 @ 9:57 am
  5. I looked at the examples and I’m impressed. It should do nicely for the majority of print jobs we do at home. Thanks.

      » Comment by jason on March 10, 2005 @ 5:08 pm
  6. I have had this printer for about 6 months and had no problems until….the LED read that the Yellow Ink Cartridge was empty. It was not! I have a good amount left becasue I can see it in the window of the cartridge. Anyway, I went and bought the yellow cartridge and put it in. It now wants a cyan and still won’t let me print a black print only document! I am so frustrated right now I am screaming! These cartridges cost $12.95 at Staples. The machine is now saying that there is no cartridge in there. Help!!

      » Comment by Lynn on October 10, 2005 @ 3:04 pm
  7. I would double check that you’re putting them in the right way and making sure they’re fully inserted (it will make a clicking sound). I’ve replaced a black one already and just had to clean the heads a few times and it’s working flawlessly.

      » Comment by dan on October 10, 2005 @ 4:34 pm
  8. I have also had Lynn’s problem of error messages requiring me to replace ink cartridges although I can clearly see ink in them. I have put them back in, tried shutting down and restarting the printer (and the computer, though that should be irrelevant), and so on–it won’t even allow me to try to clean the cartridges until I replace them with new ones. It is frustrating . . . I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong, Lynn. I’ve been checking the seating and so on . . . And it also won’t let me print black-only docs without replacing the color inks. Any help?

      » Comment by Jon on October 13, 2005 @ 10:15 pm
  9. I also bought a Brother MFC 420CN all in one, but am having a problem installing the cartridges. Are there any on line instructions? The ones in the book are not detailed enough. thanks to anyone with any ideas on this.

      » Comment by Frank on February 19, 2006 @ 3:40 pm
  10. Frank: What sort of problems are you having? Make sure you remove the plastic strip that keeps the ink from leaking during shipment, then push in the ink cartridge until it clicks in. That’s all there is to it.

      » Comment by dan on February 20, 2006 @ 1:51 pm
  11. This printer a giant piece of garbage……I have ink refills and it works. I JUST WANT TO PRINT BLACK!!!! Why should I have fill the other carts up?????? I even pulled all the carts out except for the black, disconnected the power to the printer and it still tells me that my yellow is full……THERES NO YELLOW IN THERE!!!!
    obtw IF YOU NEED A GOOD SET OF INK REFILLS GET THE ONES AT COSTCO….WORK GREAT AND IT COMES WITH A LOT OF INK.

    It amazes me that a company would produce such a crappy printer….if i tell the software black and i have black ink…it should print !!!!!

    Just remember you dont have to buy their crappy refills. Just score the top of the cartridge insert ink and cover the score with some tape.

    Now I gotta go refill my cyan and yellow so I can print black….what a joke!!!!

    Great job Brother…..morons

      » Comment by Jay on April 2, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
  12. I would just like to know if there is a way to print black only images when I’m out of color ink. I love everything about the printer until I came to this… Is there anyway to print black text only ?

      » Comment by exterminator on April 8, 2006 @ 1:54 pm
  13. when you are printing anything (even black only pages) the yellow cartridge is needed because it outouts a hidden pattern of yellow dots onto the page so people can track that page back to you. Xeros started this some time ago. It’s supposed to be to fight counterfeiting, but its a privacy invasion if you ask me, and a nousiance if you ask each other. supposedly these dots are better visible under some special light. Before you go all CSI on me and try a blacklight, try upening an all blue image. One that is ALL blue in the red-green-blue sense. No red, no green, full on blue (0000ff). Put this up full screen and hold your paper next to the monitor, I bet that will make them visible.

    I own a 420-cn, and an maving a great deal of trouble getting the cups wrapper to install. What really steams me though is how easy it was in windows to set everything up, but welcome to reality.

      » Comment by Billy on July 3, 2006 @ 11:55 pm
  14. This da–ed printer won’t print in black, even though it has a full black cart in it. Have tried all the thing in the manual, but to no avail. What gives?

      » Comment by John F on July 13, 2006 @ 12:46 pm
  15. John F: Do you have the other cartridges full? (See comment #13 above)

      » Comment by dan on July 13, 2006 @ 1:21 pm
  16. How do I get my computer to recognize read and save a scan?

      » Comment by D on August 25, 2006 @ 2:11 pm
  17. You need to install the Brother drivers and then get an application that allows you to acquire the image from the scanner. Gimp and Picasa will both work.

      » Comment by dan on August 25, 2006 @ 8:51 pm
  18. Hi Dan,
    How do u clean the print heads on the Brother MFC-420CN

      » Comment by TK on September 16, 2006 @ 2:23 pm
  19. Use the Ink button (third one below the power button), then hit the down arrow and that’s the cleaning menu. You can clean black, colors or all.

      » Comment by dan on September 16, 2006 @ 7:39 pm
  20. this printger sucks bad, waste of money to print one paper in black ink, you have to have all brand new crtriges, a

      » Comment by Anonymous on October 1, 2006 @ 5:26 pm
  21. i have one of these fantastic printers…. works great for my uses… only one thing… GREEN…. EVERYTHING IS GREEN… i scann its green… anyone any ideas?

      » Comment by matthew on October 5, 2006 @ 9:02 pm
  22. I ENDED UP REPLACING THE BLACK AND BLUE INK CARTRIDGES WITH NEW ONES ON THIS PRINTER .. THE OTHERS ARE FINE, BUT IT STILL KEEPS SAYING “NO CARTRIDGE” —> THIS WOULD REALY BE A NICE PRINTER, IF IT WEREN’T FOR THE INK PROBLEMS THAT IT HAS WHEN IT COMES TO REPLACING IT. BECAUSE OF THIS, I’M FORCED TO ADMIT THAT THIS PRINTER SUCKS!!!

      » Comment by oneil on October 6, 2006 @ 12:01 pm
  23. I figured out what the problem is: the printer has light sensors near one side of the cartridges (the side where the ink comes out). If the printer reports empty cartridge even after refilling, just place a sticker over the thin part that protrudes from the side of the cartridge. After that it works again (bad thing is that the printer probably won’t complain about low ink level - you’ll have to check it yourself).

      » Comment by JQ on October 19, 2006 @ 12:44 pm
  24. JQ: Thanks for the tip! That will help a lot of people who have commented here.

      » Comment by dan on October 19, 2006 @ 12:51 pm
  25. Can anyone tell me how to refill the ink tanks on my 420?
    Thanks,
    Vince

      » Comment by Vince on October 29, 2006 @ 5:20 am
  26. Vince: Open up the printer, unclip the old ones and push the new one in until it clicks into place. Then run a cleaning cycle using the Ink button and you should be all set.

      » Comment by dan on October 29, 2006 @ 7:20 am
  27. I am having the same problem with “Near Empty Yellow” when the cartridge is, in fact, full.
    I have tried taping the ridge on the cartridge - still no luck! Off to the dealer today…Edna

      » Comment by Edna on October 30, 2006 @ 6:17 am
  28. Hi Dan, what I was meaning was, “How can I refill the ink tank using my ink refill kit?” I used it for the old HP I had but n ot sure how to do it on the new Brother. Thanks.

      » Comment by Vince on October 31, 2006 @ 3:15 pm
  29. Vince: Ah, I misunderstood. I’m not sure about that. I would have expected the ink refill kit to come with directions.

      » Comment by dan on October 31, 2006 @ 3:43 pm
  30. I replaced my yellow ink cartrige on my brother 420 cn but the message reads “no cartrige” now i can’t print anything not even black

      » Comment by Anonymous on November 4, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
  31. Thanks JQ.
    Your solution also worked on brother mfc-3220c. This ink situation clasify these printers as drm, i.e. defective by design. Watch out if planning to buy.

      » Comment by jpueblo on November 9, 2006 @ 8:36 pm
  32. Hi I bought my brother all in one specifically because it has the scan function. However I haven’t been able to use it. I’ve read the brother manual from cover to cover and there are no step by step instructions on how to scan a document or photo. What I do is open the cover place the document face down and press the button scan except nothing happens. I’ve searched the interent ad infinitum and there’s seems to be no step by step instructions to use this functiona and I am really frustrated. Anyone have any suggestions. Do I need to get some other additional optional equipment to make it work?

      » Comment by Elaine Varney on November 30, 2006 @ 6:24 pm
  33. Elaine: I’ve only used it through the computer, where you place a document face down, then using a software package (like Google’s Picasa) you tell it to scan, or in some cases it’s referred to as acquiring an image.

      » Comment by dan on November 30, 2006 @ 8:32 pm
  34. JC, good job with Tip #23!!! I’ve been cursing this printer for hours. After reading your post, and after some strategic applicatin of masking tape, I’m back up and printing.

    Bravo Zulu.

      » Comment by Mwtt on December 3, 2006 @ 10:59 am
  35. We have a Brother MFC-5840CN and I e-mailed Brother to ask why we can’t print using only black cart. Here is what their response:

    Brother Customer:

    Thank you for taking the time to write to us. In reference to your
    question: Unfortunately, there are no settings or features that will
    allow you to bypass the ink empty message or to print only in black
    without replacing ink cartridges. If the unit were to continue printing,
    print jobs and cleaning cycles would suction air from the dry cartridge
    and damage the print head. We apologize for any inconvenience.

    Sincerely,

    Facsimile E-mail Support
    Brother International Corporation, USA

    I’ll leave it up to you to believe this or not.
    I must add that until this summer, I worked at Lexmark since 1995 in printhead development and manufacturing (my new husband had the Brother previously) and have never heard of this; but the carts we built during my time each had their own printhead instead of a shared one.

    Re: Brother, we all know those carts aren’t empty of ink even when they say they are.

      » Comment by Julie Perry on December 4, 2006 @ 1:36 pm
  36. Julie: Thanks for that information. That’s interesting.

      » Comment by dan on December 4, 2006 @ 2:59 pm
  37. Comment 23 by JQ fixes the problem. I’ll try to rewrite his comment in greater detail. The printer has light sensors near one side of the cartridges (the side where the ink comes out)(the right side or outer edge of the printer). If the printer reports empty cartridge even after refilling, just place a sticker (or duct tape or masking tape)over the thin part (middle up-down protrusion) that protrudes from the clear side of the cartridge. After that it works again (bad thing is that the printer probably won’t complain about low ink level - you’ll have to check it yourself, but that is easy because you can take out the ink cartridge and tilt it to the clear side to see if there is any ink left).

      » Comment by Lake Fred on December 13, 2006 @ 6:39 pm
  38. I have the O’Brother MFC 5840CN. I bought it about 5 months ago (July ‘06) and did some light printing and was very happy with ALL of the features, especially the network printing and the half-baked Linux support (more companies NEED to get on the Linux band wagon. I am a consumer, and I have spoken!). I am just now having ink level difficulties even after replacing ALL the Colors and Black cartridges. I noticed that even my “empty” cartridges still had plenty of ink in them. What is going on? I’m going to try the tape-method-light-sensor theory and come back here and let you know how it works. Wish me luck.

      » Comment by Brandon on December 13, 2006 @ 7:06 pm
  39. To Vince who wanted to know how to refill the ink tank; I just took my power drill and made a hole in the front top clear part of the tank above those sensors mentioned above, filled it with ink, and coverd the hole with tape. It worked fine.

      » Comment by Danielle Swanson on December 15, 2006 @ 1:38 pm
  40. Hey,
    I fought with the ink error — it just wouldn’t recoignize a full cart “Ink Empty Black Replace Ink” but I used JQ’s tip #23 with the sticker. I powered off and back on and sucsess instanly
    Thanks for the tip

      » Comment by Knowledgeme on December 17, 2006 @ 5:02 am
  41. About the solution given in Comment 23: I suspect that it is the air bubbles that are causing this problem. After reading that a sticker would do it, I went and tapped the cartridge until there were no bubbles on the light sensor side. The printer happily accepted the third party cartridge.

      » Comment by Alex on December 24, 2006 @ 8:36 pm
  42. l bought the mfc 420cn printer/fax and l hooked-up with the computer, everything is okay, coz my computer shows the fax/printer but the problem is l cannot print at all . l went to diagnosis with the cd that it came with show the connections ok but cannot communicate. do l need to get another software upgrade for my printer/fax coz ave gone through all the troubleshooting and nothing works? l am l missing something?

      » Comment by micheal on December 29, 2006 @ 6:33 pm
  43. micheal: I’m not sure what else you need to do. My first guess is that something is wrong with your connection. Double check the network or USB cable to make sure it’s plugged in.

      » Comment by dan on December 30, 2006 @ 8:39 am
  44. Just wanted to thank QJ for his (her?) post regarding “fooling” the MFC 420 into reporting the ink cartridges as full. It saved us a lot of trouble.

    Other than the ink being a bit of a problem, we like the unit, and the driver that came with it. We do take into consideration that it is not a $5000.00 machine, and you can’t be too rough with it.

      » Comment by Vern on December 31, 2006 @ 6:33 pm
  45. I’ve had some of the same problems with cartridge near empty problems but it doesn’t seem to affect the functioning of the printer. My problem arises when I try to print photos. The paper keeps jamming. I use glossy paper and make sure the settings are set up for it but it jams nearly every time. Any suggestions?

      » Comment by Pete on January 4, 2007 @ 8:27 am
  46. THERE WAS A PROBLE WITH MY COMPUTER SO IT HAD TO BE RESTARTED… AND NOW MY PRINTER IS NOT CONECTED TO MY COMPUTER AND I DON’T HAVE THE CD TO INSTAL IT AGAIN SO THEN I TRIED DOWNLOADING THE SOFTWARE BUT IT IS STILL NOT WORKING…. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX IT???

      » Comment by DANI3LA on January 6, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
  47. Does anyone seem to have any trouble with the MAGENTA not printing with their color settings? I have a Brother 420 cn that I decided to purchase for my own desktop AFTER being well pleased with the Brother 5440 model (the BIG ONE!). I do a massive amount of printing, I love the POSTER feature and the ability to refill SPONGELESS ink tanks. I have since been having trouble with the MAGENTA not printing AT ALL. The cartridges are all full and properly inserted. When the problem first started, I thought it would be worth trying purchasing the Brother Brand replacement carts., but even THAT was pointless! Their own brand doesn’t shoot ink! My dilemma: no magenta printing after REFILL, after BROTHER brand ink cart replacement, and TONS of cleaning cycles. I’ve tried everything short of bleeding my own blood on the jets to have red ink. (Didn’t KISS donate blood for red ink in their comic book in 1977??!!) Any advice before I become a felon and hurt someone with this “smart purchase?” THANKS A MILLION! The advice I have read on here already is pretty indicative that this brand and model is just not too reliable.
    Randy

      » Comment by Randy on January 8, 2007 @ 12:23 am
  48. In addition to the post I made about the MAGENTA not printing, I failed to mention that the 420cn that I purchased is a REMANUFACTURED one, and has only been used in the last 3 months. I have not done alot of heavy printing with this one either, as my last post would imply. I am stumped as to the poor return on investment after only a few months of LIGHT DUTY/regular print usage.
    Randy

      » Comment by Randy on January 8, 2007 @ 12:48 am
  49. FOR THOSE WITH INK PROBLEMS READ POST #23
    Thanks JQ, it worked like a champ!!!!
    Those little stinkin mirrors.

      » Comment by jo shmo on January 8, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
  50. Got a MFC420CN that worked well for some time. Bought a supply of aftermarket ink cartridges, and at some point it stopped printing in black. All cartridges are full. All report full in the software, however if I open the maintenance window in the remote setup program, it reports that one or more ink cartridges are empty (right underneath the four “fuel gauges” that all report full carts.

    If I print a page of black text, it runs, spits out pages, seems to think it’s printing, but the pages are blank. I’ve run the cleaning funciton about a hundred times. Printed a page of solid bold text and printed forty copies. No change.

    Any suggestions?

      » Comment by Randy on January 12, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
  51. It might be worth trying to find new aftermarket ink cartridges. Some of them have been used so many times they get gummed up.

      » Comment by dan on January 12, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
  52. I am glad I found this place. I have a problem, I just got my brother 420 CN and am in the midst of getting flustrated because I cannot get the ink cartridges in. Well they ate placed in and”clicked’ in place but when I shut the cover it repeatedly says “No Cartridges Open cover…..”What am I doing wrong. I tried the fix from post #23 on the black one should I do this to all 4?

      » Comment by Tina on January 21, 2007 @ 1:59 am
  53. I saw many coments in reference ink cartridges but not one about the error message “cannot clean”. Can anyone tell me how to manually clean or replace the print heads.

      » Comment by Jack on January 23, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
  54. Jack: I’ve never done it manually, and I’m not sure they’re really meant to be done by hand. You might try contacting Brother directly about the issue.

      » Comment by dan on January 23, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
  55. Hi folks, my MFC 420 CN was not printing black at all, but had lots of ink in the cartridge. I ran the print quality test page, (by pressing the ink button on the front panel, and following the prompts). The test page showed the magenta was not 100% clean as well. I ran several cleaning cycles on both the colour, and the black. After about 5-6 cleaning cycles and test pages, I have all the black and colour dots on the test page. I’m back in business.

      » Comment by knammer on January 27, 2007 @ 9:29 am
  56. My mfc420cn worked great for a long time, until recently: I cannot print any black text, but faxes come through just fine and print in black. I ran utility, cleaned and cleaned, still no print jobs print, only faxes. Weird huh? Anyone heard of any fixes for this?

      » Comment by Cheryl Wells on January 29, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
  57. I have a brother 6 in one printer, MFC 420 CN. On very rare occassions there will be a paper jam very far back into the center of the printer. How do you get that kind of jam unstuck?

      » Comment by PAT CARTER on February 2, 2007 @ 6:41 am
  58. OK.. thanks for the info on the tape. I used a black marker and coloured the peice all in. It now registers that the cartridge is there and is cleaning.. Thanks for the help.. This might work for people who dont have tape handy

      » Comment by john on February 2, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
  59. This is the 3rd replacement of a Brother in the past 2 years. I have purchase, Ink failure They replace entire system free no cost of shipping. Same problem with second. (210c). Went to buy Brother 420cn and SSDD.
    My advice to all of you:
    HP costly ink replacement.
    Go Canon. Screw Brother.

      » Comment by Karena on February 2, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
  60. I have the same problem as Tina (#52). I just bought this printer and it gives me the error message “no cartridge” after just having printed 5 minutes ago. Taking the cartridge out and reinstalling it doesn’t help. Sometimes just shutting the printer off works, but not always. Right now I can’t get it to work at all. Any suggestions?

      » Comment by Nathalie on February 23, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
  61. I have a MFC-420CN. After changing a black ink cartridge, it went into cleaning mode. But the message now says, “unable to clean.” I’ve already gone through the manual and followed directions, which didn’t work. I’ve called Brother directly, and they went through the same steps, and it didn’t work. The error message displayed is “Error Message 46″ - I have called a local service center to help me… but can anyone help me without having to go through a service center? THANKS

      » Comment by Sandy on February 27, 2007 @ 6:51 am
  62. #60: Make sure it’s pushed all the way down.. I thought my cartridges were seated, but then I decided to push real hard and they clicked in (which was a surprise since I thought it was already fully seated).

    Gary

      » Comment by Gary on March 4, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
  63. When the printer does it’s cleaning, what happens to the ink used for cleaning?

    I just set my refurbished MFC-420CN I got at fry’s last week. The quality test looked ok, except the yellow. The first line of the yellow was missing two dots at the end… Tried again a few days later and same thing so I decided to clean the print heads (colors only), and that fixed the problem. So far I am happy with it. Cost me $60 after rebate. I’ll see how long this last… hopefully for five years :).

      » Comment by Gary on March 4, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
  64. my computer compaq presario pent #4 ,it came pre loaded with windows vista…. i just bought the brother 420CN all-in one …. I am frustrated already… the soft ware for xp came with it ..however it only loaded to step 9 and directed me to find the paper driver that it needs from Brother…. after reading all this great info .. idon’t know what I need CUPS ,PATCHES or what ….. help

      » Comment by angela on March 19, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
  65. angela: I would suggest contacting Brother about their support in Vista. CUPS is for Linux, so you won’t need to worry about it. It’s possible that you just need some updated drivers.

      » Comment by dan on March 20, 2007 @ 5:42 am
  66. JQ (post #23)- THANKS!

      » Comment by Rob on March 21, 2007 @ 8:33 pm
  67. I’ve been having the same “low ink” problem, and I’ve tried everything mentioned here. Nothing has improved. I just put new ink cartridges for yellow, cyan, and magenta, taped the thin protrusion for the light sensors, and ensured they clicked when I inserted them. I’ve also done cleaning numerous times. Is there something I’m missing?

      » Comment by Kevin on April 1, 2007 @ 6:50 am
  68. Thanks so much for post #23. Worked like a champ!!!!

      » Comment by Bdiesel on April 1, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
  69. MFC 5440CN , Post #23 worked for as well. Blk upon refill would not regester as a change. Taped the TOP ink side only, just the entire Flat part. After taping it finally asked If I had changed Black. Yes, it cleaned itself and all is well.

    Then I removed the tape, “Did you change Blk?”. Yes, cleaned and all is well.

    Tks a bunch, really. OH,, if you go to Brother’s FAQ’s it says if you get “Low Ink” and it’s stuck to contact a local rep for repair. Mine is just past warrenty so I could just imagine the expense plus time.

    Regards
    Happy Camper
    Dan

      » Comment by DF on April 4, 2007 @ 11:52 am
  70. My MFC 420CN consistently has paper Jams. Has anyone else had this problem, or know of a possible solution? Thanks

      » Comment by Steven Sherman on April 14, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
  71. In Response to post 45 about photo paper jamming…..I’ve found that it helps if you curl the paper down a bit on all sides. Give it a try, it can’t hurt.

      » Comment by Steve on April 14, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
  72. hi, my brother mfc 210c had bee working fine/ i bought ink from Inkjet and picture quality is bad/ I don’t know if it is actually the printer or the ink.OPlease brief me on what I need to do to have help quick.

      » Comment by linda on April 17, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
  73. It would be interesting to find out how many people would like to participate in a class action lawsuit against brother. They intentionally fine tuned the printer not to print when the color cartidges come close to the end. Now, they know most people need black print in business,jobs, school where a missed letter or paper can cause loss of business, a bad grade etc.
    They knew that the printer needed an override to get it going if you have black ink. They may also be in violation of federal or state laws based on this type of business practice. Brother Corporate lawyers have responsibilities to bring this problem to the attention of their corporate bosses under Sarbanes-Oxley Act; this is a law that was passed to prevent ill-minded corporate practices.

      » Comment by Met Karl on May 5, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
  74. This mfc-420cn is a waste of money. It worked for a month or two for printing maybe 25 to 30 pages, then it said the yellow ink was out. I have tried three different replacements and have had no luck. This copy machine has been setting for a year justing collecting dust. You would think that after all the people that have complained that there could be a recall on this model. It is clearly a piece of crap that they just wanted to unload from their (heldware area).

      » Comment by Bettie Riffe on June 18, 2007 @ 7:31 am
  75. Bettie: I realize you had a bad experience with it, but using one experience to make a blanket statement about every single model out there is foolish. I’ve had mine for a few years now, and have had no problems with it.

      » Comment by dan on June 18, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
  76. Met Karl,

    If you understood how the 4 source pressurized printhead technology worked, you would realize what would happen if the ink in the micron-wide piezoelectric ink jet printhead suddenly came to an abrupt end. If you only print black, get a REAL printer and not this toy. Spend more that $100 on a piece of technology next time, and read the manual cover to cover.

      » Comment by Scientist on July 12, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
  77. Hey #23, your bizzar fix worked, and all is well. Thanks! I have a MFC-5840CN and that trick works great

      » Comment by Farmergoo on July 14, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
  78. my LCD reads “Unable to clean” I have done anything and everything that the manual states to do and it is not clearing. HELP!!!! I am still able to scan and fax I just can’t print or receive faxes!

      » Comment by Miriam on July 26, 2007 @ 11:36 am
  79. I dont undestand how to take my brother MFC 420 Cn apart so i can clean it. My red and blck are both full and the rest of my colors too but red and black wont work, only yellow and blue print. Ive dont the cleaning through the machine many times but it work work. ive taken the inks out and put them back in and it still wont work. Now I have a heck of a time taking it apart! help Please!

      » Comment by Melanie on August 6, 2007 @ 10:39 am
  80. I have a MFC 420 that has been working fine for about six months. I have refilled my own cartridges without any problems after until I let the printer sit without use for about a couple of weeks. I now cannot get the thing to print black ink. All the colors seem to look good on the test print with the exception of a few dots missing on cyan and magenta, but do not get any black from test print or copies. I’ve performed the head cleaning process over forty times now without any fix to the black or missing dots on the two colors mentioned. I’ve also checked that the cartridges are all firmly seated and don’t see anything blocking the passages at the printers inkwell bases. Does anyone have any idea that might help me take care of this problem?? This unit replaced my Dell printer and I thought this was a better printer over the Dell. Need a printer soon.

      » Comment by big joe on October 4, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
  81. thread 23 is priceless!
    I have a MFC-240C and for an inexpensive all-in-one printer, it’s worth it’s cost. The manual states that the printers will still contain ink when “empty” and that this is to protect the print head, so if you tape the ink window on the cartridge make sure you refill it, or replace it soon!
    I also had a problem where the printer was stating that I had an empty cartridge but didn’t tell me which one. If you get this message, just press the ink button (if your printer has one) and then press the “up” button (up/down search/speed lever) until “Ink Level” is displayed. Press OK. Then use the same up button to move you through your print cartridges until you find the one (or many) where none of the seven rectangles isn’t filled in (black rectangle).

      » Comment by Rick on October 19, 2007 @ 11:55 am
  82. I bought a refill kit, but the instructions to refill LC51xx cartridges don’t exist. I went to a useful site fillserv.com, and they even mention these cartridges, but the documentation doesn’t show these cartridges either! I was able to find out that the capacity of the LC51BK is 25ml (www.eink4u.com).
    Can anyone tell me how to refill these cartridges? I’m not sure if I need to drill a hole and if so…where to drill!

      » Comment by Rick on October 19, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
  83. Answered my own question about refilling LC51 cartridges at http://www.refillinstructions.com/Brother/B5.htm.

      » Comment by Rick on October 19, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
  84. Re post #23: I tried this but it doesn’t work for me. When I first install the black cartridge, it says “no cartridge,” then after powering down the MFC240 into standby mode or unplugging it, it says that the cartridge is empty. Does the sticker have to be dark, or just opaque? I tried coloring in the clear window with a black sharpie marker also. This is so frustrating!

      » Comment by JEG on October 23, 2007 @ 8:08 am
  85. RE:23….the sticker works great you just have to use the sticker thats on the cartridge itself ie: the colour is important!!…

      » Comment by ter on October 25, 2007 @ 9:24 am
  86. Dan, in regards to what you said to Bettie, consider yourself lucky that you have never had any problems with your Brother Printer. It seems that most every comment here is something negative about the printer. I have the 440cn and am having the “No Cartridge” message when I have just replaced the cartridge. THREE TIMES. It never recognizes the replacement of the cyan, and continually tells me that there is no cartridge. Has anyone ever found a solution to this?

      » Comment by Will on November 26, 2007 @ 9:18 am
  87. Will: I understand there are problems, but the complaints aren’t representative of all owners. Very few people who are having no problems with their printer are going to go searching about it online. I know three other people with the same printer and haven’t heard of any problems they’ve had with them.

    I’m not saying there aren’t problems, just that they may not be as common as this thread makes them seem.

      » Comment by dan on November 26, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
  88. I’ve been using this MFC-420CN printer heavily for a couple years now. I keep a spare set of brother cartridges around for when I do have problems but I’ve refilled these dozens of times. Air bubbles happen if you refill and use immediately (which tapping fixes), but that’s true of all ink jets. Black only doesn’t work with this model with color empty - drying the empty cartridges is a reasonable thing for ink to do, after all that’s what you want the ink to do on the page. Cheap cartridges mean no print head on them so that’s part of the cheap ink compromise. I’ve printed many, many reams of paper with minimal problems. When the printer sets with power on for a week, it apparently keeps cleaning the print heads which uses up you ink… again, part of the cheap ink. Turn the printer off if you leave it for a week. Great printer, cheap ink, easy refill. Column is where a few dozen people out of probably 100’s of thousands sold come to fix problems. Moral: Thanks Brother for cheap ink, makes my day! Wonderful printer, thank the engineers, tell them “Good Job!”

      » Comment by Stan on December 4, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
  89. Thanks for your comments Stan. I agree.

      » Comment by dan on December 5, 2007 @ 11:18 am
  90. Had this MFC-440CN printer just over one year, purchased Nov. 22, 2006, two days ago all ink cartridge indications dropped, colors to just 20% and the black stated empty, printer locked, call Brother technical, if you use non original cartridge you are on your own, no warranty. They said buy ours and it will work again, spend $35 for black cartridge, DID NOT WORK, printer toast!!! Original store (Staples) where purchased not interested to help, out of warranty by 2 weeks, they stated I should have bought extended warranty.

    Went to BestBuy, bought a fully functional LexMark Wi Fi unit X6570 and asked them about the problem with Brother printer, they would give a repair estimate and estimate quote for a small fee ($39). They are not keen on Brother and carry just a few units.

    From all my printers over the past 20 years NONE gave me the problems that the Brother did, Epson, Lexmark and ribbon units all worked.

    Stay away from Brother jetink printers (my opinion and experience)

      » Comment by Ralf on December 8, 2007 @ 10:01 am
  91. Follow-up to previous message, uninstalled my network setup of the Brothers full software package, re-installed using the USB option, printer then accepted the cartridges and showed proper full ink BUT within 10 minutes the levels dropped to near empty again. Downloaded newest firmware from Brothers for the MFC-440CN and installed, no change. Removed all the cartridges, the printer still showed “near empty” for all 4 cartridges and still printed. replaced cartridges no change. I give up.

    The Lexmark scans and prints much quieter and is faster, however, I liked the Brother face plate and interface better.

    Time to move on.

      » Comment by Ralf on December 9, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
  92. Post # 23 from Vince is right on. It works like a charm. And, the thin part he refers to is part of the cartridge itself and when looking at the computer from its front side, the thin part Vince refers to is on the left; you can see the ink level from this side and so can the Brother via its light sensors. Make sure to use thin, non-seethrough tape and one later. Otherwise you may get it stuck in the groves this thin part plugs in to in the cartridge bay.

      » Comment by John Aboumrad on December 20, 2007 @ 11:58 am
  93. couple of corrections to my last post: Thanks to JQ in post 23, re: low ink sensor causing all printing to stop, even just black. Also, I meant printer not computer when describing the left side of the cartridge to be where the thin part JQ referred to in his post (# 23 above).

      » Comment by John Aboumrad on December 20, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
  94. re: cartridge not installed et al messages.
    I have a 640cw ..had same issues.
    good carts in ..printer won’t work.
    used #23 solution would not work ..
    I KEPT DICKING WITH THIS , TAPING THE CARTS / ETC. ETC. ETC. UNPLUG PRINTER AFTER EACH ATTEMPT AND RESTART ..EVENTUALLY IT WORKED ..TOOK A TON OF TRIES ..KEEP TAPING THINGS UP AND DON’T GIVE UP.

    I have 7 5840CN’s that I’ve been using for years and have never had this problem. I lost a ton of productivity today. Brother owes me a few hundred dollars for my time in my opinion.

      » Comment by fred bernardo on January 2, 2008 @ 9:42 am
  95. My printer kept jamming and jamming too. when I opened up the top flap (2nd one, under the scanner bed where the usb cable is plugged in) I cleaned it once and it kept jamming. after moving the print head back and forth I found paper jammed towards the front where I couldn’t see it but still in the path of the print head. Prints ok now!

      » Comment by Regina Preston on January 2, 2008 @ 8:04 pm
  96. I guess that I’m dense. I have tried taping several parts of the black cartridge but I still get “No cartridge” I need a picture or a diagram! Do I need to unplug the printer after I doctor the cartridge?

    I really like the functions of this printer and have had it about a year with no problems until now.

      » Comment by DonBob on January 4, 2008 @ 2:00 pm
  97. Hello everyone I can’t say I’ll be back to this site unless I have anymore problems with my “Brother” :-) Here is my steps to refilling the cartridges with ink. Please don’t do this more than 3-5 times as the print cartridge components DO eventually wear out.
    1. Purchase a refill kit from say Wally world. Preferrable already in individual containers with there own nozzles. If you use bulk & a surrenge that is fine to.
    2. Remove the noxxle & locate a 1/8″ or so from the top of the cartridges on the clear side where the sticker is NOT.
    3. Heat up a paper clip with a lighter & BURN a hole through the cartridge the size of your surrenge or ink filler tubes. DO NOT USE A DRILL!!! This will inject small peices of plastic into the cartridge & ruin your printer for good. So burn/melt the hole..
    4. Inject ink to ALMOST up to the hole you burned in so that ink doesn’t come out when the cartridge
    5. Take your crafty got glue gun & place a small dab over the hole you created. This cartidge is sealed & needs to stay that way for correct operation in the future. Black tape or alluminum tape will work fine also. I reccommend the hot glue for a clean reusable sure fire way to seal the hole.
    6. Plug that thing back in & clean up the mess you made because it was your first time..
    7. Smile at the wife because you just saved $45 bucks on filling them up versus buying a new cartridges.

    Justin. Salem Oregon USA

      » Comment by Justin on January 6, 2008 @ 6:28 pm
  98. P.S. I really did spell everything correctly when I typed that comment above… :-) No ink comes out of the hole when the cartridge is sitting level. Hole location is 1/8 inch down from the top of the clear section. Leaves a little room for an air vacuum to form.

      » Comment by Justin on January 6, 2008 @ 6:32 pm
  99. need help I want to take my brothers 420 unit apart, and fix it can anyone tell me ow ro take it apart without breaking the plastic…thanks frznk

      » Comment by frank on January 17, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
  100. I too would like to repair the unit myself BUT Brother will not sell repair manual to end user see their response that follows. A used MFC-440CN on flea bay goes for $0.99 and new for $50. Mine will be sent to local recycle dump!!!!

    “Thank you for the e-mail. I do regret to inform you that your request for a repair manual is not an option we have to send to you. The repair service manual is only available to Authorized Brother Service Centers. You as an end user will only have access to the instruction manual.

    We understand your frustration but here at Brother, we do not support consumables which are not manufactured by brother. When you replace the consumable in your machine by another brand, this may cause damage to your machine. Most non-brother consumables are not designed the way as which we design our consumables. They are manufactured to work hand in hand with the unit.

    As you mention below, you are no longer under Brother Manufacturer Warranty and our written documentations state clearly we do not support Non-Brother Consumables and may void the warranty of your machine if this is what caused the damage. With that said, unfortunately we may not support you further but if you wish to have your machine repaired, you may bring it in to any of the repair centers Authorized by Brother that are found below for a repair. Please note that when you bring in your machine, there is a service fee for estimation.

    Brother International stands by its products and strives for excellent customer service. We would have tried our best to accommodate you but you have tied our hands with the 3rd party consumables.”

      » Comment by Ralf on January 20, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
  101. Guys, please help.
    My MFC-240 c is 1 yr old.
    The cartridges are new, as I just changed them.
    Now the message comes “Print unable 51. Look Trouble Shooting in your User’s guide for routine maintenance.”
    I checked the user’s manual online and did the routine cleaning/dusting still the message doesn’t go.
    What do I do?

      » Comment by Madhu on January 21, 2008 @ 10:18 am
  102. Well - Black vs low on yellow scam by Brother. After reading all this and that and working on these situations, I fooled it. Switched the Yellow and Blue Around until it decided to try a clean. I got my Black working for now. Ya know I read the scam about the air and printer head and its just that. Scam to buy cartridges. Because in this case, it was their Cartridges that said low (half full) and if I cant reset my own bought and paid for printer, then they have control on my printer and the settings. Scam. Never Again will buy from Brotha! I miss dot matrix in some sort of weird way. ha.

      » Comment by Chase on January 21, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
  103. Print unable 51 is a software code, I tried to fool the ink cartridge problem but could not. HOWEVER I did find a way into the machine code

    Go Menu
    Type in *2864
    Type in 10
    Code WSW00 shows
    Type in 51
    Code WSW51 0000001 will show
    Try different values, eg change to 000000 or 0000010
    BUT remember original code to get back to

    To exit type 99

    If we can find the code table we can work with these machines

      » Comment by Ralf on January 22, 2008 @ 10:22 am
  104. Must add this works on MFC-440CN not sure about others

      » Comment by Ralf on January 22, 2008 @ 10:23 am
  105. Did everything that you said Ralph, still says error code 52, cannot print :((

      » Comment by Madhu on January 25, 2008 @ 8:46 am
  106. Sorry to hear, try one other thing, if you can get into the machine code using *2864, then type 01, this is a total reset of the unit, it will remove all entries in the memory. This will take some time, all indicators (copy, fax, scan, photo capture ) will flash, I started mine right now and after 2 minutes still flashing.

    To exit power off and/or 99

    Local repair shop says, I should junk the unit, not worth paying $ 80 for full set of ink cartridges and looking at repair costs.

      » Comment by Ralf on January 25, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
  107. Thanks so much.I’m going to do that tomorrow and let you know. Thanks again for your prompt reply.
    Help Desk at Brother tells me to clean the machine by using a duster or else take it to a repair shop :(

      » Comment by Madhu on January 25, 2008 @ 6:20 pm
  108. Yeah 95! you are totally right. I was so ticked at my printer. After you “remove” the paper jam from the back, unplug the printer and move the print head to the side. My printer had some paper shreds wadded up in the corner underneath the plastic where you had to really look for them. I thought the printer was completely dead. Who knew some little shreds could make that horrible of a noise!

      » Comment by jsparger on January 25, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
  109. Thanks for the tape on the catridge tip! Masking tape didn’t work, so I used a marker to cover up the top and middle of that side of the cartridge. I don’t have the low yellow error anymore. Thankfully, we don’t have to buy another printer. WooHoo!

      » Comment by Printer Owner on February 27, 2008 @ 4:19 am
  110. I have tryed tapeing every square mm of the front of my black cartridge (right side as well, as you are looking at the back of the cartridge) still getting “black ink out”…could one of you kind souls please submit a picture of the fix……..thanks, mark

    p.s. i messed with this forum and i am not sure how you post pics..

      » Comment by mark on March 4, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
  111. Here’s another variation on the problem. My MCF 640CW will not print red. Whenever it is supposed to print red, it prints yellow (not blank). It has 3rd party cartriges in it and has had them for about a year. Was working fine untill two days ago. Suddenly red stopped, didn’t fade out like an empty cartridge, and yellow started! Before you say plugged nozzles, if the red was plugged, why would that make it print yellow? Tried many cleaning cycles to no avail. Any help would be appreciated!

      » Comment by JoeMan on March 12, 2008 @ 12:06 pm
  112. Helllp! My boys need to print their ENDLESS homework and the MFC 210C just faded away… It now only prints blank pages after many head cleanings, etc.
    What’s up??
    Many thanks in advance,
    -DJ

      » Comment by Daniel Jenkins on March 15, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
  113. mY PRINTER IS READING CANNOT INIT. PLEASE CHECK MANUAL IN THE TROUBLESHOOTING AND ROUTINE CHAPTER. i DONT HAVE MY MANUAL, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT i NEED TO DO TO GET IT GOING?

      » Comment by NESHUNA on March 31, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
  114. THIS PRINTER IS A PIECE OF CRAP. BROTHER HAS PRODUCED A PRODUCT WHICH IS DESIGNED TO FAIL MISERABLY UNDER NORMAL USE. ITS ONLY REDEEMING FACTOR IS THAT IT’S USUALLY HEAVILY DISCOUNTED. ANYONE WHO PAID FULL PRICE HAS LITERALLY BEEN ROBBED. NEVER AGAIN WILL I BE FOOLED INTO BUYING ANY BROTHER PRODUCT.

      » Comment by Wally on April 4, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
  115. OH YEAH - I ALMOST FORGOT…. ANYONE WANT TO BUY ANY BRAND NEW UNOPENED INK CARTRIDGES THAT WON’T WORK IN THE PRINTER THEY WERE DESIGNED FOR? YOU CAN HAVE THEM FOR CHEAP. THE ARE NOT EVEN WORTH THE EFFORT REQUIERED TO CARRY THEM TO THE TRASH CAN.

      » Comment by Wally on April 4, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
  116. Wally, no use using capitals implying shouting but more on your topic, my Brother MFC-440CN was one week over the 1 year warranty, Brother not interested to help nor Staples, take in for repair, charges for estimate and then whatever repair required even after I just bought new Brother ink cartridges for over $80. Printer showed, no cartridges installed. Stuck!!!

    Local repair and used PC shops did not even want it for free. I was luckly bought unit on Platimun MC which extended warranty, they refunded cost of printer and not worthy for repair.

    STAY away from these machines, happy with wireless Lexmark unit now.

    Anyone want a MFC-440CN printer with no scratches on it and in original box, cables and CD? Foolish if you did.

      » Comment by Ralf on April 12, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
  117. Censured Version
    “Proud” owner of MFC 420CN.

    There once was a printer born broken.
    The prints that it offered were a token
    of what should have been
    Until well beyond when
    This piece of sh*t started sucking.

    A cornicopia of problems arose
    when this brother (quite a mother) I chose
    It doesn’t read yellow ink,
    And lately the OCR stinks,
    Hence I feel this printer blows.

    True, Network capabality is built in,
    Along planned obsolescence within.
    All colors must be stacked
    If I want to print black.
    Putting this on the market is a sin.

    I’ll be trying Cannon next
    With techni-color muscles flexed.
    Except for a muse,
    My brother can’t be used
    for anything, for it is hexed.

    To all of my brothers in pain
    Who won’t buy a brother again,
    Remember this saying,
    When price is forgotten
    Quality remains.

    GA G-man

      » Comment by GA G-Man on April 27, 2008 @ 9:19 am
  118. Wow - that’s the first poem I’ve heard devoted to this printer. Thanks for the contribution :)

      » Comment by Dan on April 27, 2008 @ 10:17 pm


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