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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2003/04/10/the-dark-side-of-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-1239</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure.  I already installed it for &lt;a href=&quot;http://lifeoflevi.com/blog.php&quot;&gt;Levi&lt;/a&gt; and keep it up-to-date when I update mine.  In fact, I even configured &lt;a href=&quot;http://awstats.sourceforge.net/&quot;&gt;AWStats&lt;/a&gt;.  The main limitation I impose is disk space, because that&#039;s the limited resource.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure.  I already installed it for <a href="http://lifeoflevi.com/blog.php">Levi</a> and keep it up-to-date when I update mine.  In fact, I even configured <a href="http://awstats.sourceforge.net/">AWStats</a>.  The main limitation I impose is disk space, because that&#8217;s the limited resource.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2003/04/10/the-dark-side-of-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-1238</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, so if I decide to pay for a website someday you can host? :^D  Will you install moveable type for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, so if I decide to pay for a website someday you can host? :^D  Will you install moveable type for me?</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2003/04/10/the-dark-side-of-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and I agree with you on the comments that lavish praise and worship on Heather.  If you want to see some more, take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sourbob.com/&quot;&gt;sourbob.com&lt;/a&gt; who has at times told them to quit it, but they keep coming back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I agree with you on the comments that lavish praise and worship on Heather.  If you want to see some more, take a look at <a href="http://www.sourbob.com/">sourbob.com</a> who has at times told them to quit it, but they keep coming back.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2003/04/10/the-dark-side-of-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-1236</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not really out of kindness, it&#039;s because in most cases of longterm high-bandwidth use, the material is either illegal or contains adult content, and your account gets disabled.  Also, they have tens of thousands of customers (maybe even more), so a spike in a traffic on one site won&#039;t affect the overall network usage.

I used to work there myself and when I changed jobs, I was willing to pay to keep the server, partly because I have friends that still work there, but also because there&#039;s no bandwidth cap.  I resell space on the server to help defray costs, because it&#039;s not cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not really out of kindness, it&#8217;s because in most cases of longterm high-bandwidth use, the material is either illegal or contains adult content, and your account gets disabled.  Also, they have tens of thousands of customers (maybe even more), so a spike in a traffic on one site won&#8217;t affect the overall network usage.</p>
<p>I used to work there myself and when I changed jobs, I was willing to pay to keep the server, partly because I have friends that still work there, but also because there&#8217;s no bandwidth cap.  I resell space on the server to help defray costs, because it&#8217;s not cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2003/04/10/the-dark-side-of-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-1235</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 19:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must have a very kind webhosting service. Or maybe no one&#039;s had something on there site that gave them pause to reconsider.

I visited dooce.com after a friend linked to it. After browsing around, I never had an interest in returning. But I have to say the legions of commentors were amusing. I haven&#039;t witnessed that much gushing and worshipping by admirers since Limbaugh was in his prime during the Clinton years.  Can you say mega-dittos?

But back to the topic at hand, I use the free blogger service on blogspot. I suppose on the free services, they just block access if you reach the limit.  And I&#039;m only marginally witty so I doubt I&#039;ll ever generate much traffic. LOL :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have a very kind webhosting service. Or maybe no one&#8217;s had something on there site that gave them pause to reconsider.</p>
<p>I visited dooce.com after a friend linked to it. After browsing around, I never had an interest in returning. But I have to say the legions of commentors were amusing. I haven&#8217;t witnessed that much gushing and worshipping by admirers since Limbaugh was in his prime during the Clinton years.  Can you say mega-dittos?</p>
<p>But back to the topic at hand, I use the free blogger service on blogspot. I suppose on the free services, they just block access if you reach the limit.  And I&#8217;m only marginally witty so I doubt I&#8217;ll ever generate much traffic. LOL <img src='http://dan.hersam.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2003/04/10/the-dark-side-of-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-1234</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 18:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you get mentioned on slashdot with a sizeable media file on your site, you&#039;re screwed.  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any way to catch that issue before it kills you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you get mentioned on slashdot with a sizeable media file on your site, you&#8217;re screwed.  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any way to catch that issue before it kills you. <img src='http://dan.hersam.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2003/04/10/the-dark-side-of-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-1233</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a bandwidth limit on ahoyhoy.org and out of curiosity I sent off an email to the admin to ask how they handle bandwidth problems such as this.  He told me that they charge $3.xx per GB over your limit.  They also offer throttling to prevent it.  To activate throttling after the fact would be &quot;day late and many dollars short&quot;, but I would like to think that I could catch the issue before it got out of control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a bandwidth limit on ahoyhoy.org and out of curiosity I sent off an email to the admin to ask how they handle bandwidth problems such as this.  He told me that they charge $3.xx per GB over your limit.  They also offer throttling to prevent it.  To activate throttling after the fact would be &#8220;day late and many dollars short&#8221;, but I would like to think that I could catch the issue before it got out of control.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope.  My web hosting service doesn&#039;t have a limit on bandwidth, for which I&#039;m grateful.  A year or so ago &lt;a href=&quot;http://coincollector.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;coincollector.org&lt;/a&gt; was mentioned on CNN, resulting in 20,000 visitors.  This site recently got 10,000 visitors to the &lt;a href=&quot;/guess.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;javascript guessing game&lt;/a&gt; from a college humor site.  I&#039;ve reduced bandwidth usage by removing images, but that&#039;s because I want the page to load quickly, not because I have to pay extra for it.

The reason for the post is that I&#039;ve seen sites become popular and then ask for help when they see the bill.  It can be an unpleasant experience that most would rather avoid.  Here are a few I&#039;ve seen.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=redooced%20begging&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dooce.com&lt;/a&gt; (she removed the archive)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:FN9RWGRQKnQC:www.stinkfactor.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stinkfactor.com&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ubergeek.tv/donate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ubergeek.tv&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,58219,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Glenn Fleishman&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-675.html#lnk4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more&lt;/a&gt;)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poundy.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poundy.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.  My web hosting service doesn&#8217;t have a limit on bandwidth, for which I&#8217;m grateful.  A year or so ago <a href="http://coincollector.org/" rel="nofollow">coincollector.org</a> was mentioned on CNN, resulting in 20,000 visitors.  This site recently got 10,000 visitors to the <a href="/guess.html" rel="nofollow">javascript guessing game</a> from a college humor site.  I&#8217;ve reduced bandwidth usage by removing images, but that&#8217;s because I want the page to load quickly, not because I have to pay extra for it.</p>
<p>The reason for the post is that I&#8217;ve seen sites become popular and then ask for help when they see the bill.  It can be an unpleasant experience that most would rather avoid.  Here are a few I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=redooced%20begging" rel="nofollow">dooce.com</a> (she removed the archive)<br />
<a href="http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:FN9RWGRQKnQC:www.stinkfactor.com/" rel="nofollow">stinkfactor.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ubergeek.tv/donate/" rel="nofollow">ubergeek.tv</a><br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,58219,00.html" rel="nofollow">Glenn Fleishman</a> (<a href="http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-675.html#lnk4" rel="nofollow">more</a>)<br />
<a href="http://www.poundy.com/" rel="nofollow">poundy.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2003/04/10/the-dark-side-of-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you speaking from experience?  (other than the thieves using your pics)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you speaking from experience?  (other than the thieves using your pics)</p>
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