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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2002/09/14/seafood-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry about it.  I always enjoy a good debate too and will often play devil&#039;s advocate in order to do so.  Since you&#039;re almost a card-carrying devil&#039;s advocate though, I&#039;ll take the other side for a change.

If she had paid for the lobsters and then let them go, no one would have minded (including her husband, who wouldn&#039;t have minded if she was dancing a jig on the table.)  The law would have been satisfied along with her own conscience.  The way she chose to deal with it was not only unlawful, but it made her appear rather daft.  If if you were to ask for the opinion of the caterers who were chasing after her that night, I don&#039;t think any of them would have told you she was a smart, lucid woman.  Words like crazy and lunatic would probably be more common.

I&#039;m not familiar enough with aquatic life to know the predators of a lobster, but I doubt they make a point of being nice when they kill their food.  It&#039;s not that they&#039;re torturing the lobster, just crunching the little fella until it no longer moves.  I&#039;ll admit it&#039;s not too pleasant, but nor  are a lot of things in the wild.  Plus, haven&#039;t you ever had a dip in a hot tub?  I&#039;ll bet someone could boil me alive in one of those things.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry about it.  I always enjoy a good debate too and will often play devil&#8217;s advocate in order to do so.  Since you&#8217;re almost a card-carrying devil&#8217;s advocate though, I&#8217;ll take the other side for a change.</p>
<p>If she had paid for the lobsters and then let them go, no one would have minded (including her husband, who wouldn&#8217;t have minded if she was dancing a jig on the table.)  The law would have been satisfied along with her own conscience.  The way she chose to deal with it was not only unlawful, but it made her appear rather daft.  If if you were to ask for the opinion of the caterers who were chasing after her that night, I don&#8217;t think any of them would have told you she was a smart, lucid woman.  Words like crazy and lunatic would probably be more common.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar enough with aquatic life to know the predators of a lobster, but I doubt they make a point of being nice when they kill their food.  It&#8217;s not that they&#8217;re torturing the lobster, just crunching the little fella until it no longer moves.  I&#8217;ll admit it&#8217;s not too pleasant, but nor  are a lot of things in the wild.  Plus, haven&#8217;t you ever had a dip in a hot tub?  I&#8217;ll bet someone could boil me alive in one of those things.</p>
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		<title>By: Erynn</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2002/09/14/seafood-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Erynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, let me make clear that I&#039;m only pursuing this argument for the sake of a fun debate. I&#039;m not interested in being a comment troll, and all you have to do is tell me that you&#039;re not interested in this discussion and I will be gone. [/disclaimer]

As a vegetarian (but not vegan, because tofu is pure eeeevil) myself I can hazard a guess at her line of thinking. While stealing the lobsters was against the law, allowing animals to be tortured due to her lack of action would have been unethical. When it comes down to choosing between the laws of man and the laws of one&#039;s conscience or deity you usually find God as the winner. (Yes, the laws of nature dictate that animals eat other animals, but very few of them torment their meals first.)

Yeah, devil&#039;s advocate. I wonder if I could get that printed on a business card?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, let me make clear that I&#8217;m only pursuing this argument for the sake of a fun debate. I&#8217;m not interested in being a comment troll, and all you have to do is tell me that you&#8217;re not interested in this discussion and I will be gone. [/disclaimer]</p>
<p>As a vegetarian (but not vegan, because tofu is pure eeeevil) myself I can hazard a guess at her line of thinking. While stealing the lobsters was against the law, allowing animals to be tortured due to her lack of action would have been unethical. When it comes down to choosing between the laws of man and the laws of one&#8217;s conscience or deity you usually find God as the winner. (Yes, the laws of nature dictate that animals eat other animals, but very few of them torment their meals first.)</p>
<p>Yeah, devil&#8217;s advocate. I wonder if I could get that printed on a business card?</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2002/09/14/seafood-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erynn,

That&#039;s certainly a different perspective on the story, but it wasn&#039;t just that she wasn&#039;t willing to torture her own dinner.  She stole the caterer&#039;s lobsters.  It would have been fine if she had asked for something to eat besides lobster and shellfish, but her actions were not lawful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erynn,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s certainly a different perspective on the story, but it wasn&#8217;t just that she wasn&#8217;t willing to torture her own dinner.  She stole the caterer&#8217;s lobsters.  It would have been fine if she had asked for something to eat besides lobster and shellfish, but her actions were not lawful.</p>
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		<title>By: Erynn</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2002/09/14/seafood-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Erynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so she&#039;s a little wacky, but can you really fault somebody for being concerned about the welfare of other living creatures?

Personally I think we should only kill animals for food with methods that we wouldn&#039;t object to having used on ourselves. Sure, nobody &lt;i&gt;wants&lt;/i&gt; to be executed. But if you had to you&#039;d opt for quick and painless, not excruciating death by boiling (unless you&#039;re retarded).

Quite frankly it sounds like she was the sanest person in the room. It was a fund-raiser, so the guests were there to raise cash for something, probably something that made them feel all civic-minded and confident that they were good people. But Lobster Mamma was the only one who wasn&#039;t willing to torture her dinner so the media mocks her rather than the hypocrisy of the others? Meh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so she&#8217;s a little wacky, but can you really fault somebody for being concerned about the welfare of other living creatures?</p>
<p>Personally I think we should only kill animals for food with methods that we wouldn&#8217;t object to having used on ourselves. Sure, nobody <i>wants</i> to be executed. But if you had to you&#8217;d opt for quick and painless, not excruciating death by boiling (unless you&#8217;re retarded).</p>
<p>Quite frankly it sounds like she was the sanest person in the room. It was a fund-raiser, so the guests were there to raise cash for something, probably something that made them feel all civic-minded and confident that they were good people. But Lobster Mamma was the only one who wasn&#8217;t willing to torture her dinner so the media mocks her rather than the hypocrisy of the others? Meh.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammie</title>
		<link>http://dan.hersam.com/2002/09/14/seafood-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2002 15:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that I know someone that she can date :P</description>
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